dumbass LCC bike lane on Stratford High Street

[knocksofbeggarmen]

the area is going to be heavily congested due to construction and i would like to use roads andnot be abused by taxi drivers etc for being in the road. you just know what abuse is going to happen . "use your special lane you exdel " etc

You are seriously saying that taxi drivers don't know any other swear words?

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

All those roads in London I have a right to ride on. M4 motorway I do not, nor have I ever had. This distinction is what makes you initially silly, but now tedious diversion a straw man argument.

Look- WHY don't you have a right to ride on the M4? Please reflect.

There is a historical and a logical explanation.

Both explanations have the potential to cause enlightenment about dutch infra, if you were to focus.

Think, why don't you have a right to ride on the M4?

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

Do not look to patronise me.

I'm inviting you to answer a question. Will you do so?

 

[mjr]

I used the term road myself. That aside yes those are what we need.

I used "mixed lane" because I thought you didn't want to use cycle lanes even if they're on- road.

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

initially silly, but now tedious, diversion a straw man argument.

As earlier observed, you are only using the words 'straw man argument' in the sense of 'boo'. There is a fuller meaning to the expression that I tried to bring to your attention.

You said you wanted the freedom to ride where you like. Some like to ride on Motorways. Ergo...

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

No, I have explained that I view motorways as irrelevant here.

I think I now have to explain what the words 'explained' and 'explanation' mean.

You have *stated* that you view motorways as irrelevant to your argument.

For your *explanation* of why they are irrelevant, I fear we are still waiting.

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

You (plural, singular) said you wanted the freedom to ride where you like. Some like to ride on Motorways. Ergo...

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

As I said, silly but now tedious.

Saying you don't like my questions is not a way of answering them.

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

There is nothing of any value to answer.

“Questions are like the knocks of beggarmen, and should not be minded.”

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

“What you think is the point is not the point at all but only the beginning of the sharpness.”

“Descartes spent far too much time in bed subject to the persistent hallucination that he was thinking. You are not free from a similar disorder.”

 

[theclaud]

Crikey! This KnOB fellow doesn't half get excited.

 

[dellzeqq]

I must have missed the bit where knocksofbeggarmen admitted being an urban planner. London's streets are wide enough and because most of the city has been rebuilt repeatedly, there's surely space for cycling. .

show us the drawwing

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

show us the drawwing

Dammit TfL have published a total of 18 drawings for the E-W route alone.

 

[knocksofbeggarmen]

Yes but why only on this one subject? Why never on the truly vexatious issues?

You've already answered this question- the only possible explanation for my annoying you with questions you don't wish to answer is that I am a sick sockpuppet in the pay of a major international conglomerate involved in a conspiracy for Cyclepath World Domination.

 

[dellzeqq]

All those roads in London I have a right to ride on. M4 motorway I do not, nor have I ever had. This distinction is what makes you initially silly, but now tedious, diversion a straw man argument.

I've done it out to Junction 6

Knobbers, old son, you're winding yourself up something chronic.

I'll summarise

The evidence is (check this very forum) that segregation increases cycling deaths per million miles
There isn't space for the kind of segregation you propose
When space is found (CS2 - at the expense of a bus lane) it's nowhere near as successful as bus lanes (CS7)
Segregation is uncivil and makes walking and bus travel less pleasant
There's no strategic benefit in mass cycling - CS7 is at capacity, and yet the contribution it makes bears no comparison to the humble bus.
The scheme for the Embankment (were it to happen, which I doubt) will ruin a wonderful bike ride - and I take that personally