Drago's now traditional Winter 2024-25 murder deathkill slaughter annihilation apocalypse chaos mayhem insanity nastiness weather thread

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Julia9054

Guru
Location
Knaresborough
School is shut this morning.
Oooh! We have an Orange alert for both Monday and Tuesday with 30-40cm (some local areas 50cm) of snow expected per 24 hours. Great! This is on top of the 12-15cm already on the ground.

Oslo doesn't grind to a halt when it snows though. When I visited, the plane managed to land, all the public transport was running and people were just going about their business.
40 - 50 cm is alot though.
 
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Drago

Legendary Member
There are significant differences.

The big London airports are running at capacity, with planes landing 40 seconds apart at peak times. Aviation rules dictate the spacing be increased in poor conditions and the delays wre inevitable.

For the most part the Scandinavian airports are not running at capacity and are already running landings at a spacing generally well in excess of those required by foul weather rules so there is usually no change in their operational tempo.

Then on the ground there is the question of economics. In Scandinavia these adverse conditions are common enough to justify the expense of the ground equipment required to keep runways open.

In the UK such kit is typcially required less than 48 hours per year, and sometimes not at all, thus leaving no business case of the massive expense. Even if there were, we're back again to the increased aviation spacing rules holding everything back with the acthal flights so it would make little difference anyway.

So - for a change - it is a not case of inefficiency, ineptitude, or sheer twattishness that makes UK airports so problematic in these conditions. There are genuine operational, legal and financial considerations that dictate the response.
 
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lazybloke

Today i follow the flying spaghetti monster
Location
Leafy Surrey
The snow-melt and the rain; flooded fields near Cobham... (4:20pm today)
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grldtnr

Über Member
I like how those Swans are, swanning about like they own the place!
Very much like a cat on a counter, touches every thing , then pushes it of the counter, 'thats mine! Crash! That's mine, ...crash
 

sevenfourate

Devotee of OCD
The snow-melt and the rain; flooded fields near Cobham... (4:20pm today)
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If nothing else - its now starting to show the nights are pulling out.....

Apparently only 20 seconds a day or something silly at this point in the year. And pretty much only increasing in the evening - not in the Mornings. But i'm positive its noticeable. It wasn't that light at 4.20pm in the depths of Winter !
 

grldtnr

Über Member
As an early riser ,I can confirm that the nights are drawing out, here in my corner of the nook, it was still quiet light as late as 1630 ,didn't get dark until 1700; and even it was proper dark for another HR,
Mind you I face the rising sun every morning.
 
On my commute, any
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... is down to crazy impatient drivers.
I can deal with the weather.

The speed limit is 40mph, it's dark, it's snowing and we're approaching a LH bend with bloody great chevron signs up. Is it sensible to pass me at 60mph?

... or how about the new-build estate a little earlier - posted limit 20mph - is 50 a sensible speed?

[I admit that catching them all up in a 20-car queue for the river crossing was quite satisfying ... ]
 
If nothing else - its now starting to show the nights are pulling out.....

Apparently only 20 seconds a day or something silly at this point in the year. And pretty much only increasing in the evening - not in the Mornings. But i'm positive its noticeable. It wasn't that light at 4.20pm in the depths of Winter !

Sunset Today: 16:12
Dec 21st: 15:56

So a small change ... but if you happen to be outside between (say) 4pm and 4:30, it's a world of difference!
 

Marchrider

Über Member
Sunset Today: 16:12
Dec 21st: 15:56

So a small change ... but if you happen to be outside between (say) 4pm and 4:30, it's a world of difference!

and of course the darkest evening is a few days before the shortest day (14th 15th)

but yes notably diffeent in the evenings twighlight last night seem to extend to nearly 4:30 where as middle december it would be completely dark by 4
 
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lazybloke

Today i follow the flying spaghetti monster
Location
Leafy Surrey
At 6am, Alexa told me it was above freezing outside. Wrong!
Car needed significant de-icing, so i made sure i was early for my driving shift so the minibus had time to thaw.

Had 7 passengers on board when it started snowing, and within 5 minutes the road was covered!
I've driven my own cars in atrocious winter conditions before, but not a minibus, so i was glad when the sun emerged and started melting everything.

Eagle eyes on forecasts and conditions tomorrow!
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
I've just watched a video about 'Russia's toughest prisons'. It said that prisoners are forced to exercise outside in minus 50 Celsius temperatures and if they talk to each other they get dowsed with a water cannon. It made me feel that outside's 31 degrees Fahrenheit/minus 1 degrees Celsius is quite balmy! 🧐
 
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Had to explain to another well-spoken Karen this morning that I was "holding her up" because the left of the (1-way) road was iced up. In her opinion she had kindly "let" me avoid the really obvious ice a few seconds earlier.
She could have waited behind me sensibly for the whole of the shortcut, and still only added about a minute to her journey time.
 
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