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HF2300

Insanity Prawn Boy
Right, now that the dopers have retired, the IAAF comes out and reveals that, oh, yes, they were doping and the IAAF were always going to deal with it. Anybody convinced?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33867962

The BBC's Dan Roan said:
A central plank of Coe's IAAF presidential election campaign has been getting tougher on doping and he has spoken about life bans for those caught cheating. However, given his involvement in the IAAF for several years, and his condemnation of the media outlets who have exposed the leaked files, is he too close to make those changes?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33789481
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Rather poor choice of words:
Blood doping: Is fixing athletics Lord Coe's greatest challenge?
Race fixing as well as doping?
 

PaddyMcc

Über Member
I would like to think that this means that cycling will no longer be seen as the dirty sport, I doubt it though
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
pretty standard template these days for responding to dodginess seeing the light of day....doesn't matter if it's sport, business, politics - for your bingo cards:-

the odd bad apple
historical problems but clean as a clean thing now
dodgy foreigners
dodgy doctors
witch hunt
ushering in an era of full transparency
scientists/experts with a grudge doing dodgy analysis to damage a sport/organisation
a full and frank inquiry - expect 'frank' to go suddenly silent when results time comes around
lessons learned
new super duper checks and balances
let's put the bad old days behind us - even if they were only last week
a tough crackdown with serious sanctions...unless of course.......
implausible deniability - the head honchos really knew nothing and hadn't even heard any rumours despite a lifetime involvement
attack the messengers

Fell free to add to the bingo card, I think house may already have been called on the above list
 
Location
Midlands
The IAAF say 'look - we are doing something, honest guv - we've stripped the medal from someone you've never heard of'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33964788

that process started over 18months ago - only now appeared after the CAS decision went IAAF's way against home association Turkey who didn't impose a ban - the seeming lack of action seems to be that its all very well saying the results are "abnormal" but proving it beyond doubt at CAS (or for that matter in a German court it would seem) is another matter - note the use of a "negotiated" settlement at CAS - plus the reticence of the home associations to implement ban (seen that in another sport)
 

woohoo

Veteran
I don't have any view one way or the other on this particular case but IMHO that statement was very clumsy / lacked credibility (and to be fair, I have no idea howthe interview was edited etc), however, if she had said "Piss off. It's my data and I choose not to release it", I would have had a more sympathetic view than I do now..
 

woohoo

Veteran
Releasing his data didn't shut up the doubters of Chris Froome
I don't think the release of the data is the issue; the claim that "People don't understand it, it's very complicated..." is the point of contention for me. For sure the nutters in the Clinic will make something out of nothing but there are plenty of independent experts who could add value, given access to the data (of any athlete).
 
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Location
Midlands
Probably not many independent experts - they all have got a hand in the fire - either for a world/national body or one or other side of the table at CAS - and it would seem that there there are as many different interpretations depending on which side of the fire you are sitting
 
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