Doping in other sports
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fossyant
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This is fascinating
It bloody well is....
I will fill you all in about Testosterone and Thyroid mess in a bit... Watching the telly
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fossyant
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Cytomel is not a current thyroid drug.....
fossyant
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A 16 year old on testosterone, OMG that is so dangerous and will mess him up in later life.
fossyant
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I hope Mo is clean.....
fossyant
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A programme with a bit a balls for once...
fossyant
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Ah BBC news straight after......
fossyant
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Ferrari again though. The sh1t is hitting the fan.
Good.
Good.
400bhp
Guru
Just thought exactly that about Wells.
fossyant
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Thyroid drugs, in a normal person will increase metabolism. Muhammad Ali took it, called T3 a natural pig extract. There is T3 and T4. My wife takes a mix of both as she has researched her condition hypothyroid and the natural product combined with the synthetic works for her. It's not for people without an under active thyroid.
Testosterone should never be used with anybody with a normal blood level - it should by 15 to 25 for a normal bloke in 30 to 50 age range. The normal medical range is 8 to 30, but that includes old fellas of 90. Normal for most of us is about 20.
If you use testosterone, it will shut down your normal production. You can't just give yourself a little boost as the pituitary gland will produce less LH hormone, telling your baubles to make less. You have to seriously dose up, shutting down the natural systems, then closely monitor blood levels so its in range, so you can push it up to high 20s without too many issues, but normal is around 20.
In a fella that's not had kids, it will make you infertile.
Issues with overdosing on Testosterone is raised heamocrit, and if you start going over 54 (the pro level of 50 is top of normal so its a bit dodgy) you have a serious risk of stroke over heart attack.
I know a fair amount on this as I am on testosterone replacement from two surgeries on my bits. My testosterone was 9 on first test then fell to 5. My heamocrit was down to 40 right at the bottom of normal. I had a right fight to get it prescribed as a level of 5 leaves you like a zombie. Even now I am not up to normal levels. I have an injection every three weeks. The folk that abuse it take three each week.
I have my bloods checked very often, think it's been more than once a month since my problems started as there are issues with prostrate and heamocrit. My heamocrit was at 42 last time, so had gone up 2 but was still under mid level.
There is some seriously dangerous sh1t going on in doping.
Testosterone should never be used with anybody with a normal blood level - it should by 15 to 25 for a normal bloke in 30 to 50 age range. The normal medical range is 8 to 30, but that includes old fellas of 90. Normal for most of us is about 20.
If you use testosterone, it will shut down your normal production. You can't just give yourself a little boost as the pituitary gland will produce less LH hormone, telling your baubles to make less. You have to seriously dose up, shutting down the natural systems, then closely monitor blood levels so its in range, so you can push it up to high 20s without too many issues, but normal is around 20.
In a fella that's not had kids, it will make you infertile.
Issues with overdosing on Testosterone is raised heamocrit, and if you start going over 54 (the pro level of 50 is top of normal so its a bit dodgy) you have a serious risk of stroke over heart attack.
I know a fair amount on this as I am on testosterone replacement from two surgeries on my bits. My testosterone was 9 on first test then fell to 5. My heamocrit was down to 40 right at the bottom of normal. I had a right fight to get it prescribed as a level of 5 leaves you like a zombie. Even now I am not up to normal levels. I have an injection every three weeks. The folk that abuse it take three each week.
I have my bloods checked very often, think it's been more than once a month since my problems started as there are issues with prostrate and heamocrit. My heamocrit was at 42 last time, so had gone up 2 but was still under mid level.
There is some seriously dangerous sh1t going on in doping.
Captain Slackbladder
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It's getting all a bit silly now where athletics is concerned, I'd be more inclined to think that more are actually doping than not....when it comes to elite level anyway.
Flying_Monkey
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Wasn't this the same supicion with the 'training methods' used on Ronaldo (the Brazilian one) when he arrived in Europe as a teenager?