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Doping git thread
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Adam4868
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I'm not sure what the device does to give you a advantage,but broke the rules.
View: https://twitter.com/velonews/status/1635598113493725188?t=YDKonJclUIeoY5eAojx5bw&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/velonews/status/1635598113493725188?t=YDKonJclUIeoY5eAojx5bw&s=19
Alex321
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Basically, the advantage is that it helps you control when and how much you need to eat or drink for the best efficiency.
Adam4868
Legendary Member
I should be ok then...I tend to graze.😁
T4tomo
Legendary Member
But if shes a diabetic she'd need one for medical reasons. Is she a diabetic or was it worn for performance??
I don't know but if I see her Alaska.
cougie uk
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You mean the Lance Armstrong who won the road race title in 1993 ?
That's a bit more than the average Pro ever does?
He was never a donkey.
Alex321
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But if shes a diabetic she'd need one for medical reasons. Is she a diabetic or was it worn for performance??
I don't know but if I see her Alaska.
She wouldn't need one as a diabetic, they just provide more benefit.
I know plenty of people who are diabetic (including my wife), and none of them have one. My wife thought about it, then saw the cost and decided the benefit just wasn't worth that cost.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
But if shes a diabetic she'd need one for medical reasons. Is she a diabetic or was it worn for performance??
I don't know but if I see her Alaska.
Apparently - the team said she had it fitted when she wasn't expecting to race. Then she was a last minute pick so she rode with the device present but not connected for data gathering. That was their story anyway, but the UCi was having none of it.
Anyway, it's nothing to do with doping so shouldn't be in this thread. It was an equipment infringement. Like socks. It's basically the UCI sulking and saying "we wish we'd banned power meters and heart rate monitors"
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FishFright
More wheels than sense
You've even worse when I agree with you than when I don't.
mjr
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He was doping from age 21 (so 1992? But probably before his first pro wins in 1993 in any case) according to some guy called Lance Armstrong: https://www.espn.com/espnplus/player/_/id/29188382
Before doping, he was the last rider to finish inside the time cut at San Sebastian 1992. More than most of us could ever do, but not the world-beater he became. I agree with Matt Rendell: Lance responded amazingly well to EPO, at least in his cycling results, but we'll never really know how he would have compared.
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matticus
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[Good to see some actual discussion of an ACTUAL "doping git" 👍 ]
Cathryn
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Interesting situation in the women’s peloton as Shari Bossuyt tested positive. Some intriguing links with Toon Aerts!
https://escapecollective.com/road-a...ested-positive-for-wada-prohibited-substance/
https://escapecollective.com/road-a...ested-positive-for-wada-prohibited-substance/
Article in today's Times sport section "Cycling records are tumbling - but can this era be trusted?" In summary largely yes; lighter riders, less body fat, tighter jerseys, lighter bikes, better gearing, better food, sleeker frames, far greater use of the hubs rather than drops, deeper wheels, thicker tyres, use of aerodynamic tools means riders today compared to the height of EPO use are saving a lot of wattage.
Jonathan Vaughter's is quoted "I can say very confidently that the peloton is infinitely cleaner than in the mid-90s and that it's also faster. Those things are not mutually exclusive. But if you're saying 'Oh, now it boils down to individual cases', that's much harder. And for me to whitewash that and say, 'Well, I'm not even going to look at that with a critical eye, because I just believe that the equipment and nutrition is so much better' - that's also not appropriate. Because, obviously, the history of the sport is what it is. And you can't just turn a blind eye."
Jonathan Vaughter's is quoted "I can say very confidently that the peloton is infinitely cleaner than in the mid-90s and that it's also faster. Those things are not mutually exclusive. But if you're saying 'Oh, now it boils down to individual cases', that's much harder. And for me to whitewash that and say, 'Well, I'm not even going to look at that with a critical eye, because I just believe that the equipment and nutrition is so much better' - that's also not appropriate. Because, obviously, the history of the sport is what it is. And you can't just turn a blind eye."
matticus
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Pretty incredible rides this week ... #justsaying