cougie uk
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It's a bit clear cut though I would have thought - you can't use them - look at how strict they are with the banned bar grip positions.
Unless shes a diabetic i guess ?
Doping git thread
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It's a bit clear cut though I would have thought - you can't use them - look at how strict they are with the banned bar grip positions.
Unless shes a diabetic i guess ?
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Yeah, you'd have thought it was clear cut. And the UCI love enforcing their latest new regulations - look at the rash of bottle throwing DQs - then get bored and move on to something else. Maybe whatever she was using didn't strictly fall within the definition of banned equipment in the regs.
Either way, not doping.
roadrash
cycle chatterer
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if I doubted every performance then there would be no point watching, do we sit here and say everyone that ever won anything is on the sauce, benefit of the doubt and all that
matticus
Guru
Quite.
I find all this oh-so clever "scepticism" for every half-succesful rider crushingly boring.
Stick to the facts, or go and join some Facebook Drugs Cheat group. There are plenty of back-slapping drugs "sceptics" out there - who all know better than me, of course - let them amuse each-other.
FishFright
More wheels than sense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling
The facts are even more depressing than the sceptics.
cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
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I was asking people's opinions, expecting reasoned replies and I get watch other sport or basically bullying .guess I will just communicate with people who can actually have a debate without resorting to mudslinging from now on
Adam4868
Legendary Member
It's a bit of a touchy/sore subject for those of us that love the sport...
But dont let it put you off making your views heard ! Nobody's bullying or mudslinging you lol.
matticus
Guru
And I've read Tommy Simpson's auto-biography.
NEWSFLASH: everyone knows doping has been a big part of cycle-sport. You're not some Pulitzer-candidate investigative journalist thanks to posting this news!
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
I prefer to pick goodies and baddies for reasons that make no sense whatever, or for no reason at all, and cheer/boo accordingly. Sometimes baddies are chosen for doping related reasons (Valverde) sometimes I ignore awkward facts about my goodies (Contador). Sometimes baddies hang around so long they become elderly goodies (Valverde again). Luckily I had Armstrong down as a baddie all along so I was spared any feeling of betrayal. I'm also a bit of a one for the underdog, and have a terrible memory so a baddie who I might have taken against previously because I don't like his silly name could reappear next year as a goodie because I think his silly name is cool.
matticus
Guru
OK then:
He's very good, currently the cream of the crop.
Currently not a sniff of any drugs scandal ... unless you want to stir one up.
There you go: a reasoned reply.
matticus
Guru
So are you with me in finding the Yates twins too boring to care about?
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
One of them's a goodie, the other is a baddie. But I can never remember which is which.
Reasoned thoughts about Pog: He has shown no sudden changes in ability. He's been a boss throughout the junior ranks. So no reason to doubt him right now. But if there is a scandal about him in future I won't suddenly be heartbroken and say that cycling has betrayed my dreams or any of that cobblers. I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.
Alex321
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There really isn't any "debate" though.
Either you accept that people are clean until there is evidence showing otherwise, or you might as well not watch at all.
Just suggesting those who you think are doing "too well" must be doping isn't really productive, or likely to generate any meaningful debate.
The sport does, unfortunately, have a long and ignominious history of doping issues, but with the sheer volume of in and out of competition testing, and the far more sophisticated testing techniques they have nowadays, I really don't think it likely anybody is going to get away with it for long any more.
On a similar topic, I've been chronically anaemic for about ten years due to an issue with my bone marrow. I've spoken with my consultant on several occasions asking about EPO. She was reluctant to prescribe it for me for a couple of reasons. She also mentioned that it only works on about 50% of patients, and with them, it usually ceases to be effective after a couple of years.
From the various doping scandals over the years I got the impression that it works for everyone who has normal health and wondered if it eventually stops being effective for the dopers too.
From the various doping scandals over the years I got the impression that it works for everyone who has normal health and wondered if it eventually stops being effective for the dopers too.