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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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Cycling podcast (Moore, Birnie and Friebe) 168 covers the demise of Mapei due to doping 15 years ago.
BalkanExpress
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Stonechat
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Raul Alcarlon suspended
possibly biological passport anomalies.
He claims it’s all lies
possibly biological passport anomalies.
He claims it’s all lies
tommaguzzi
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well thats never going to be an excuse "Rachel" McKinnon can use
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No quotation marks needed. Very uncool.
tommaguzzi
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no tampons needed either
Dogtrousers
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Episode 926 of the Sky saga is about to begin.
Freeman is up before a medical tribunal and will admit to "telling a lot of lies" and ordering the mystery testosterone.
And all this will mean definitely probably something or other. Or maybe not. I'm not sure.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ichard-freeman-to-admit-he-told-a-lot-of-lies
But they're called Ineos now so it doesn't matter.
Freeman is up before a medical tribunal and will admit to "telling a lot of lies" and ordering the mystery testosterone.
And all this will mean definitely probably something or other. Or maybe not. I'm not sure.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ichard-freeman-to-admit-he-told-a-lot-of-lies
But they're called Ineos now so it doesn't matter.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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I don't get why this should be there, unless there is some micro dosing going on. A box is about 2-4 weeks supply for someone that needs it, but applying the gel will give a small increase temporarily, but regular use shuts down any normal production ( = no advantage). The body 'adjusts'. It's not a magic bullet, and I can't see why micro dosing will do that much, but it's possibly a marginal gain.
Adam4868
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I wouldn't know enough about it to comment.really,other than it "sounds dodgy"
fossyant
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It's seriously 'dodgy'. I take the stuff myself (different brand) - long story, bodged snip ! Loads of blood tests, really low T after original op and 'repair surgery'.
It does not make you superman - low levels you feel like crap and can't breath on climbs, but once you start treatment you can't stop it as it shuts down natural production, so you have to have blood tests to keep your levels in normal range. If 'boosting' with it, it's not going to work for more than a very short time, as your body normally adjusts production. It's not going to make you faster though, or make you feel super !
For me, it's more not going 'low' as I get the sweats and feel like crap. The gel is easier to keep levels OK but long term it burns your skin - have to move application sites. Injections were not pleasant - OK with the big needle, but the bruising and muscle soreness no good.
As for racing, the replacement stuff sticks out if tested for. Why was this stuff was on site ? Even a staff member would apply it at home in the morning, and if you miss a day, so what... doesn't matter so long as you don't keep missing it.
Very very dodgy. And for what advantage ?
Adam4868
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In pro cycling though...something tiny to average Joe is a massive boost to a pro.Feck even longer socks is a no,so I'm sure this is !It's seriously 'dodgy'. I take the stuff myself (different brand) - long story, bodged snip ! Loads of blood tests, really low T after original op and 'repair surgery'.
It does not make you superman - low levels you feel like crap and can't breath on climbs, but once you start treatment you can't stop it as it shuts down natural production, so you have to have blood tests to keep your levels in normal range. If 'boosting' with it, it's not going to work for more than a very short time, as your body normally adjusts production. It's not going to make you faster though, or make you feel super !
For me, it's more not going 'low' as I get the sweats and feel like crap. The gel is easier to keep levels OK but long term it burns your skin - have to move application sites. Injections were not pleasant - OK with the big needle, but the bruising and muscle soreness no good.
As for racing, the replacement stuff sticks out if tested for. Why was this stuff was on site ? Even a staff member would apply it at home in the morning, and if you miss a day, so what... doesn't matter so long as you don't keep missing it.
Very very dodgy. And for what advantage ?
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
In his book Tyler Hamilton mentioned the use of testosterone patches as part of his doping program.