Doping git thread
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Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
The person robbed here was Wiggins. This should have been his first GT win. Froome was there as support and only when Cobo attacked on the Angirlu was Froome let off the leash to chase. If Cobo hadn't been able to attack because he wasn't doping, Froome would have followed team orders and Wiggins would have won.
Adam4868
Legendary Member
Thats speculation at best ? Who's to Wiggins had it in him to win ? Great stage win from Froome there.
View: https://youtu.be/uT8DdEdhy0A
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
I've changed my mind. I'm going to start a Cobo is innocent campaign. It's clearly a stitch up. Biopassport? That's what they want you to believe
Adam4868
Legendary Member
View: https://twitter.com/sticky_bottle/status/1144317551851257857?s=19
Not like it's going to bother Aqua Blue.
DRM
Guru
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Oh dear, I hope this isn’t true!
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...-aicar-reported-tour-de-france-peloton-431194
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...-aicar-reported-tour-de-france-peloton-431194
Without the riders knowledge is the sentence that worries me. So we just need some dodgy Directeur Sportif running a team, perhaps one with a history of doping, whose riders always seem to improve when they join and get worse when they leave.....No I can't think of one either........
DRM
Guru
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- West Yorks
My thoughts too, also the bit about being neigh on undetectable
biking_fox
Legendary Member
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- Manchester
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/teams-divided-over-use-and-risks-of-ketones-at-tour-de-france/
Any thoughts over the Ketone use? It's not technically doping as they're not banned. Pure Placebo??
Any thoughts over the Ketone use? It's not technically doping as they're not banned. Pure Placebo??
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
I stand to be corrected but I thought the evidence for performance enhancement was anecdotal. I'd be interested in the source for "reportedly give a 1.5 per cent performance boost and can significantly aid recovery"
That said if over use can be harmful, and if people are over using them hoping for performance enhancement (and maybe getting a placebo boost), then it's a worry for rider welfare. Especially if teams are requiring/recommending that riders use them.
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KneesUp
Guru
Lance Armstrong's podcast (The Move) has some episodes sponsored by pedlars of Ketones. He says they are good ...
johnblack
Veteran
- Location
- South Northamptonshire
If it's not banned then it's not doping so a decision to be made by the individual if they feel it's of use. It's there to be used like any other legal supplement.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Sponsored person endorses sponsor's product ...
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ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
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I think a good test is if the team feel happy to talk about what they are doing.
I never heard any team say "Yeah, we dose our riders with as much Tramadol as we can. They can't feel any pain so they can do what they otherwise wouldn't be able to do. No problem, it isn't banned" so that suggests that they realised it was dodgy, even when legal. (It was finally banned in March this year, but in 2017 4.4% of all doping tests showed the presence of it.)