Does God exist?

[spandex]

If a god does exist then this thread will be gone when I next log on...

Why? just because you want some thing to happen it dose not mean it will and dose not disprove that god does or dose not exist.

 

[Jaded]

If a god does exist then this thread will be gone when I next log on...

or possibly you will be gone!

 

[Mr Pig]

or possibly you will be gone!

Or maybe 'all' of the golfers will be gone! That would be a result ;0)

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Or maybe 'all' of the golfers will be gone! That would be a result ;0)

Wot's a golfer, in this context?

 

[Jaded]

Wot's a golfer, in this context?

It's the context of a believer showing exactly what 'goodwill to all men' is.

 

[asterix]

God does exist and rides a retro steel road bike with Campag.

All other frame materials and Sh**ano are the work of Beelzebub

 

[walker]

Why? just because you want some thing to happen it dose not mean it will and dose not disprove that god does or dose not exist.

but this is god, or Jesus christ. he could walk on water and feed 5000 people on a sherbet space invader.

 

[Jaded]

Jim, that's a great page!

What are genes for making these things doing in creatures that don't need them, don't normally have them... and if separately designed, never have had them?

 

[GaryA]

Not yet...it is becoming, allegedly, bar the odd pesky asteroid/volcanism/snowball

 

[Noodley]

Why?

'Cos now I'm gonna have to go and kill someone....

...and it's all God's fault.

 

[Mr Pig]

Here's another page you know doubt won't like:

If a layman examined a jet airliner they might well see design features that seemed superfluous, inefficient or wrong. An aircraft designer might then quietly tell them that they are not qualified to comment and explain things to them.

Failing to understand why a design is the way it is does not make any sense as a reason to suggest there is no designer. The other thing to remember is that the world we see today is far removed from the world God created.

If you look at the account of creation in Genesis, and up to and beyond the flood, you'll see how different things were. Before the fall, nothing died! Creatures were designed to 'run' indefinitely. Even after the flood life spans were huge compared to today drawing shorter as the years went by. The floor changed the world in a negative way. Pre-flood, plants were bigger, animals were bigger and if the resurrection body of Christ is anything to go by Humans looked very different too. There was more oxygen in the atmosphere and it didn't rain!

What we see today is a broken, run down and damaged version of the world of Genesis. Life forms are surviving in a very sub-optimal environment.

Do common features in different species point to common ancestors, or a common designer? A Focus and a Mondeo are not the same car but you can tell the same designers penned them both, and they'll share common features, and maybe even parts, too.

And some of the arguments against a creator seem to me better evidence for one. If Pandas evolved along side other similar mammals how would they alone end up with six fingers? And how, if all breeds of horses evolved from a common ancestor, did different breeds end up with different numbers of ribs?

The world is wonky. God made it but not as we see it today.

It's the context of a believer showing exactly what 'goodwill to all men' is.

Goodwill doesn't extend to golfers, everyone knows that ;0)

if any God is beyond time and space then their existence and that of evolution are entirely compatible.

Some Christians do believe exactly as you say. I myself still believed in evolution when I first became a Christian. I stopped because I realised the evidence for evolution was not good and the evidence for design in the living world incontrovertible. And besides, The Bible clearly states that each creature was created "after its own kind". I guess a being who can build the whole universe doesn't need evolution, if there was such a thing! ;0)

 

[dudi]

I'm an athiest.
I don't believe God exists.

I understand other people do believe in a God.
That's fine.
they understand that I don't.
that also should be fine.

I dont tell them that they are wrong. they don't tell me I am wrong.

the world goes round and everyone keeps making their own choices.

isn't the freedom to think for ones self a wonderful thing.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

I stopped because I realised the evidence for evolution was not good and the evidence for design in the living world incontrovertible. And besides, The Bible clearly states that each creature was created "after its own kind". I guess a being who can build the whole universe doesn't need evolution, if there was such a thing! ;0)

You first statement is simply evidence of your lack of understanding of the science of evolution as the whole of the rest of your post demonstrates. The second is more honest. You believe because you believe because you believe.

I suppose the question is for literalists - why chose the particular book that you did to base your beliefs upon? There are many true words of many gods. What makes 'god A' so much more true than 'god B'? After all, the evidence one is pretty much as good as any other.

 

[mickle]

If a layman examined a jet airliner they might well see design features that seemed superfluous, inefficient or wrong. An aircraft designer might then quietly tell them that they are not qualified to comment and explain things to them.

Failing to understand why a design is the way it is does not make any sense as a reason to suggest there is no designer. The other thing to remember is that the world we see today is far removed from the world God created.

If you look at the account of creation in Genesis, and up to and beyond the flood, you'll see how different things were. Before the fall, nothing died! Creatures were designed to 'run' indefinitely. Even after the flood life spans were huge compared to today drawing shorter as the years went by. The floor changed the world in a negative way. Pre-flood, plants were bigger, animals were bigger and if the resurrection body of Christ is anything to go by Humans looked very different too. There was more oxygen in the atmosphere and it didn't rain!

What we see today is a broken, run down and damaged version of the world of Genesis. Life forms are surviving in a very sub-optimal environment.

Do common features in different species point to common ancestors, or a common designer? A Focus and a Mondeo are not the same car but you can tell the same designers penned them both, and they'll share common features, and maybe even parts, too.

And some of the arguments against a creator seem to me better evidence for one. If Pandas evolved along side other similar mammals how would they alone end up with six fingers? And how, if all breeds of horses evolved from a common ancestor, did different breeds end up with different numbers of ribs?

The world is wonky. God made it but not as we see it today.



Goodwill doesn't extend to golfers, everyone knows that ;0)



Some Christians do believe exactly as you say. I myself still believed in evolution when I first became a Christian. I stopped because I realised the evidence for evolution was not good and the evidence for design in the living world incontrovertible. And besides, The Bible clearly states that each creature was created "after its own kind". I guess a being who can build the whole universe doesn't need evolution, if there was such a thing! ;0)

wibble

 

[Noodley]

wibble

Is that the religion with free next day delivery and a free packet of sweeties?