Do clip in shoes really give that much of an advantage?

[Speedywheelsjeans]

[QUOTE 1741575, member: 76"]Well, having read the whole thread, and taken on board all the data it seems that most of the clipless riders have toppled over at some point.

Which I think leads to the rather obvious conclusion that it is completely reckless to engage in cycling clipless without a helmet.[/quote]

In my personal opinion it is completely reckless to ride a bike without a helmet. And before anyone jumps on my back about them 'not being all that protective' I plowed into the back of a mini bus that slammed its brakes on at around 25 MPH, I smashed my lid to pieces, cracks and dents all over. My head 'except for an excruciating headache' was fine. I guarantee if my skull took the whole impact it would have been a different story. If something has the potential to protect me from brain damage or death from head first impact with the floor then its certainly worth wearing, my fiance wont let me ride without it anymore. Makes you look the part aswell.

However, most clipless moments happen at low speeds where you no longer have bike control, but saying that too nothing stopping you from landing head first on a clipless moment. You'll find the more you use clipless the less moments you'll have, I have not had one for a very long time .... *touch wood*

 

[GrasB]

We must all remember, Helmet's saves lives give you concussions.

^^ corrected to be consistent with my experience of wearing & not wearing helmets having offs.

 

[Speedywheelsjeans]

^^ corrected to be consistent with my experience of wearing & not wearing helmets having offs.

haha.. I like that!

 

[Herbie]

The biggest advantage is for comically falling over outside your own front gate

Been there done that too and in front of 6 people...caused much amusement for them and a red face for me

 

[BrumJim]

indeed Maggot. We must all remember, Helmet's saves lives.

That's going to cause a lot of controversy.



Misusing an apostrophe like that.

 

[dellzeqq]

Could the advantage be down to me having clip in shoes/pedals and him not?

yes

 

[Hip Priest]

I'm the man to ask. I went out for 35 miles this morning with toe clips (sans straps). It was muddy and wet in the lanes and my feet were slipping about on the pedals. Then when I got home my SPD-SL pedals and shoes had arrived so I fitted them and went for a ride round the block and noticed I was putting out an extra 255 kilohertz of torques per minute.

It's actually much easier to unclip than I imagined.

 

[Speedywheelsjeans]

[QUOTE 1741806, member: 76"]Tee hee hee, mentioning helmets works every time doesn't it? Is it the touchiest subject in cycling?[/quote]

I seem to have suffered a relapse there! ... Tried to control myself from submitting a reply... but a black mist descended and it just happened.

 

[ianrauk]

[QUOTE 1741806, member: 76"]Tee hee hee, mentioning helmets works every time doesn't it? Is it the touchiest subject in cycling?[/quote]


I know... it was very naughty of me... I should know better..

 

[rollinstok]

I have the best of both with those Shimano one sided clipless. On casual rides I wear my jodhpurs, brogues and a cardigan thrown over my shoulders. When I,m all serious I adopt lycra, a steely grin, 1000 yard stare, spd shoes, and ignore any other cyclist who passes by ( unless they are as serious as me )

 

[briantrumpet]

We must all remember, Helmet's saves lives.

I think I've traced the source of this belief.

On 16 Feb 2007, a poster called 'aiyo' posted this question*:

I know there has been a number of inquiries regarding using a value from a Mail Merge record to dynamically name an output file. My objective is to create 'x' number of documents using the same template, but save each on using a distinct filename from a value within each record. I've come close by referencing the ActiveDocument.MailMerge.DataSource.DataFields(i).Value This works successfully for the first record. However, subsequent records retain the value from the first record, essentially overwritting the original file. Any ideas?

Someone called Helmut Weber responded:

Hi, maybe an additional .DataSource.ActiveRecord = i will help.

And, response, aiya wrote:

Helmut, you are a life saver!

And from there, it is but a small step, and a case of casual pronunciation and dodgy grammar, to the conclusion that "helmets save lives".

So there you are. A mystery solved. Entire books and beliefs have been known to have been derived from such minor misunderstandings.

*source

 

[KateK]

I think I've traced the source of this belief.

On 16 Feb 2007, a poster called 'aiyo' posted this question*:

Someone called Helmut Weber responded:

And, response, aiya wrote:


And from there, it is but a small step, and a case of casual pronunciation and dodgy grammar, to the conclusion that "helmets save lives".

So there you are. A mystery solved. Entire books and beliefs have been known to have been derived from such minor misunderstandings.

*source

I like my helmet, I wear it all the time. I think it makes me look cerebral and trendy.

 

[KateK]

In fact I even wear it when I'm not cycling,
Actually that's only true when i forget to take it off... that's what the medication does to you.
Oh Slartibartfast...I just remembered I'm not supposed to mention the H word. Oh, just think of cake or something much more controversial till you forget I said anything...

 

[BigSteev]

I have the best of both with those Shimano one sided clipless.

No, you have a pedal that is a "jack of all trades, master of none". Neither side could even be close to being described as being "the best".