Detention Lines: I will wear a helmet.

[Monkey Spanner]

*Waits for someone to come on spouting that statistics show helmets don't protect you, drivers, that you are more likely to get rotational injuries etc, etc.*

 

[AdamBlade]

Obviously it is anyones right whether to wear a helmet or not, but I have seen a number of people post that their helmet has been split in a collision. Would this not be enough evidence to suggest that they do provide some sort of protection? I know I would rather it be my helmet splitting than my head.

 

[4F]

Are they legally allowed to do this? I shall ask Mrs Mickle (Primary Headteacher) forthwith.

No

 

[4F]

Obviously it is anyones right whether to wear a helmet or not, but I have seen a number of people post that their helmet has been split in a collision. Would this not be enough evidence to suggest that they do provide some sort of protection? I know I would rather it be my helmet splitting than my head.

But I don't think that anyone has said that they don't provide some protection. Without doubt they can protect against road rash etc but how much more can a thin piece of polystyrene protect you and from what ?

 

[4F]

It was a letter from the HM saying kids need to wear helmets when cycling to school.

I assume that probably on the same letter it asked parents not to park on double yellow lines or block the road etc etc

 

[Wolf04]

Obviously it is anyones right whether to wear a helmet or not, but I have seen a number of people post that their helmet has been split in a collision. Would this not be enough evidence to suggest that they do provide some sort of protection? I know I would rather it be my helmet splitting than my head.

You are only reading posts from people who survived the impact that split the helmet, how many in similar circumstances didn't?

 

[BentMikey]

If you feel helmets reduce the severity of serious head injuries, think again:
http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1013.html

Sweetpea, one study suggests that helmet wearers are 7 times more likely to hit their heads.

Adamblade, cracked helmets do not confirm that the helmet worked. Cracks are a sign of brittle failure, where little or no energy was absorbed - i.e. it's a sign that the helmet failed to work. You need the foam to compress to absorb energy.

 

[mickle]

Are they legally allowed to do this? I shall ask Mrs Mickle (Primary Headteacher) forthwith.

She say no. Outside the school grounds it's down to the parents.

 

[AdamBlade]

If you feel helmets reduce the severity of serious head injuries, think again:
http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1013.html

Sweetpea, one study suggests that helmet wearers are 7 times more likely to hit their heads.

Adamblade, cracked helmets do not confirm that the helmet worked. Cracks are a sign of brittle failure, where little or no energy was absorbed - i.e. it's a sign that the helmet failed to work. You need the foam to compress to absorb energy.

Ok, I take your point. I'll carry on wearing mine though. With I hadn't joined in

 

[col]

Well yes, I've not seen you being wound up, but you're generally quite a sensible poster!!

The illogical bit comes from your assumption that helmets will reduce or negate injuries and make cycling safer overall. I don't make the same assumption, and I think overall they make things slightly worse from a safety point of view.

Its never been mentioned that it would do this overall,just on certain impacts,i dont understand where you get this from?

 

[Monkey Spanner]

If you feel helmets reduce the severity of serious head injuries, think again:
http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1013.html

Sweetpea, one study suggests that helmet wearers are 7 times more likely to hit their heads.

Adamblade, cracked helmets do not confirm that the helmet worked. Cracks are a sign of brittle failure, where little or no energy was absorbed - i.e. it's a sign that the helmet failed to work. You need the foam to compress to absorb energy.

What utter bollocks. Are you suggesting that you are less likely to hit your head if not wearing a helmet? How? Do the Head Fairies protect you somehow?

As for 'brittle failure', you are talking our of your hole. A helmet doesn't shatter into a million pieces as it should if it was unable to absorb energy. It absorbs a significant amout of force and then disipates it further through breaking.

 

[Cab]

So... If I'm wearing a helmet, fall off, helmet cracks... Do I get less, more, or the same amount of force on my head? My gut feeling is that its more or less the same.

Has there been anything new or innovative in the overall helmet debate thing here in this thread? I ask solely 'cos I'm lazy and can't be bothered reading the whole bally lot of it.

 

[swee'pea99]

Has there been anything new or innovative in the overall helmet debate thing here in this thread?

At last! A decent laugh. (You were joking weren't you?)

 

[Monkey Spanner]

So... If I'm wearing a helmet, fall off, helmet cracks... Do I get less, more, or the same amount of force on my head? My gut feeling is that its more or less the same.

Has there been anything new or innovative in the overall helmet debate thing here in this thread? I ask solely 'cos I'm lazy and can't be bothered reading the whole bally lot of it.

Are you suggesting a helmet magically transfers 100% of the force through to your head?

Let me hit you over the head with an iron bar and you can tell me which feels most forceful, with or without helmet.

 

[4F]

Has there been anything new or innovative in the overall helmet debate thing here in this thread? I ask solely 'cos I'm lazy and can't be bothered reading the whole bally lot of it.

I am sure you already know the answer to that