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screenman said:
Sitting as we are nice and comfortable in front of a computer, how do we know how hard it is doing this challenge?
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No idea, can someone carry me to the kettle. :cry::cry:
 
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I think she is doing it to raise money for good causes, she is busy enough work wise without it, likewise John Bishop and David Walliams.

I am thinking about a nice 25 miles on the bike today, it is raining and sleeting along with strong winds, anyone fancy joining me.
 
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You have to respect anyone who would put themselves through all that,especially in February.Doesn't matter to me who she is or whether i like what she has done on telly.
I have donated a fiver by texting FIVE to 70510.It's the least i could do.
 
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asterix said:
Why don't you do the most you can do? It'll ease my guilty conscience.
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I would rather you have a guilty conscience:hello:
 
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User3094 said:
Just catching up with this one... it dunna look easy.

Id think twice about swimming a mile and a half in the pool, let alone in Windermere, let alone in February, let alone after a bike ride.

I couldnt do it.
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Seeing her being winched out of Windermere it is not possible to say she has not put her body on the line seriously.

Swimming in cold water is incredibly dangerous - anyone who wants to trivialise her effort is a twat in my book.

Personally I think the organisers misjudged that though - no way is it ok for people to give the appearance that it is maybe alright for people to get in such a state. I am on the mailing list of the Serpentine Swimming Club - here is a group email sent last autumn:



"Evening All,

This morning was a beautiful morning at the Serps; clear sunny skies, crisp air temperature, and 7.5C/45F water. I personally enjoyed a heroic 110 yards, some of which was walked!!

However…someone got it very wrong this morning! One slower swimmer decided to swim a mile, as it was a 'lovely sunny day'. It took the swimmer 50 minutes to get the job done. Said swimmer was then in big trouble, and needed significant help to get changed and recover. It took her a good hour to recover.

When the water temperature gets below 10C, it is incredibly challenging for anybody to generate more heat than they are losing, and eventually everyone will become hypothermic and in danger. When in cold water it's a constant battle between heat loss and heat generation. Obviously the fatter you are the slower you lose heat. Generally the higher the stroke rate and level of activity the more heat you generate. A slow 'genteel' breaststroke mile in 7.5C is a ticking timebomb!!!!

One could write reams and reams on hypothermia, and a quick Google search brings up loads of info. However, some quick tips to help swimmers when they get in trouble, and to avoid the 'afterdrop':

DO's

* If a swimmer has slowed considerably, TELL them to get out, they might not be thinking logically any more, and need you to make this call for them
* Steady them as they stand up and exit the water. They might be dizzy for a little while
* Walk them swiftly to the changing room
* Handle them gently
* Sit them down
* Get them out of their swimming kit and into LOTS of layered dry clothing
* Get a beanie on their head (much heat is lost from the heat)
* Encourage them to shiver (generates heat)
* Keep them awake, do not let them sleep
* Sip luke warm drink (warms from inside)
* Warm hot water bottles under armpits but not direct contact with the skin (artery close to skin to take heat to core)
* Set up a steam inhalation if needed (heats from inside and arrests the 10-30% of heat loss that happens from respiration)
* Stay with them
* DO NOT LET THEM DO ANYTHING FROM THE LIST BELOW!!!

DON'T's

* Don't put them in a hot shower, they are likely to pass out. No risk of this at Serps anyway!
* Don't exercise to create heat: Brings colder blood from limbs to core, and lowers core temp
* Do not rub the swimmer: This brings blood to the surface, reducing core temp
* Don't wrap up in space/foil blanket: A real killer!!! Good at keeping runners warm after a race, by reflecting heat back in. However, with hypothermic swimmer there's little heat in the system. The blanket reflects heat coming into the system/swimmer away.
* Don't stand up and walk/run around. Gravity encourages blood away from core, which then returns colder as it's been through cold limbs.

Please ask yourself "What is too far/long?". If you love the Serpentine and the club, and want to push yourself in cold water, please do it elsewhere, as you are jeopardising all that we love. If we have a serious incident or death, our very existence will be under greater threat! Think before you do something that might be beyond your capabilities!

Big love"
 
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