cyclists blocking the road

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gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
CTC rides that i go on, are limited to around 20 to avoid being too large a pack

The local clubs meet at the same point on a Sat morning and tend to share a similar first 20 km before heading off on their own routes. In the height of summer, there are frequently well over 100 cyclists spinning along as one massive peloton, definitely blocking the road and when we hit the dual carriageway, the group often spills over onto the 2nd lane. It is definitely a moving road block. The local drivers take it pretty well and do manage to get through or past. The acceptance of a group of cyclists is just so completely different over here.
 

screenman

Squire
Marinyork, you sure jumped on me there for voicing my opinion, from experience and club discussions we have found the 20mph+ head winds we have around here mask the sound of a quiet car coming up from behind to some of us, note I say mask, now when riding in a group many people are concentrating far more on the wheel in front than what might be behind, not correct I know but the truth none the less. Maybe your hearing is super tuned. I invite you to come over here and see what reaction I get when using my horn behind a group of cyclist, maybe I have a nice sounding horn, maybe it is where I live, maybe I use it from far enough away not to cause offense, come to think about it the latter is the more likely one.

Now stop calling me patronising and accept that others may have a different way of dealing with a situation.
 

screenman

Squire
I wonder why some people come across more road aggression than others do, maybe I am lucky that I have only been involved with a few cases in 41 years of cycling and racing.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Now stop calling me patronising and accept that others may have a different way of dealing with a situation.

I accept that others have a different way of dealing with a situation (you obviously don't read my posts), what you said is still very patronising. You know perfectly well a horn will be interpreted as aggression, the person using the horn knew this and was still tempted into using it and they still have the cheek to whinge about the predictable after effects.

As I said it's just the driving culture we live in, I wish we could change it, but we can't.
 

screenman

Squire
We can change anything if we want to do so enough. Personally I think it is the way a horn is used that can sound aggressive, much the same as a bike bell can sound friendly or otherwise.

So if you were out riding in a group on a windy day at say 20mph would you like the car behind to let you know they were there from about 100yds back? o would you rather they just crept up on you, bearing in mind you may be in the middle of the pack and the guys behind on bikes hanging on for all their might and certainly not looking over their shoulders.
 

chewy

Well-Known Member
Location
Devon
Easy way to settle this.

Did the cyclist's have helmets?
If not, they are in the wrong.


Simples ;-)
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
We can change anything if we want to do so enough. Personally I think it is the way a horn is used that can sound aggressive, much the same as a bike bell can sound friendly or otherwise.
.

toot = I'm here


vs


BLARRP! = get out of the fecking way


or


Ding ding = I'm here, can i come past please


vs


ding ding ding ding ding = get out of the fecking way







 

davefb

Guru
You clearly don't drive a Fiat, nothing about that Horn could be considered aggressive! :laugh:

hehe, yeah, my cars is rubbish as well... i hardly use it,, ( coz i normally hit the wrong bit of the wheel), but sometimes someone does something utterly insane...


so hit the horn, and this pathetic 'parp' comes out....


still,, would be nice to have a 'peep' and a 'HORN!' choice..........
 

Norm

Guest
Easy way to settle this.

Did the cyclist's have helmets?
If not, they are in the wrong.


Simples ;-)
And, if they weren't in hi-viz, they should be locked up...

(just in case that blue touch paper didn't catch with the first match :biggrin: )
 
1. Never been on a club ride that has six abreast riding.
2. When cycling into a headwind often never heard a car engine behind.
3. Appreciate a short toot from a car horn as per reasons above, nearly always accompanied by a wave after we have moved over.
4. If our club run contains more than 14 riders we split into 2 groups.
5. On some roads singling out can be more dangerous.
6. Aggressive and/or inconsiderate cycling leads to even more aggressive inconsiderate driving, a lose lose situation.

Normally enjoy a good debate but confrontational attitudes out on the road could potentially be dangerous.
 

david k

Hi
Location
North West
no need for aggression against otheres, people become bullies when in the sfatey of the tin box with wheels, very sad. weak people imo
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
+1
1. Never been on a club ride that has six abreast riding.
2. When cycling into a headwind often never heard a car engine behind.
3. Appreciate a short toot from a car horn as per reasons above, nearly always accompanied by a wave after we have moved over.
4. If our club run contains more than 14 riders we split into 2 groups.
5. On some roads singling out can be more dangerous.
6. Aggressive and/or inconsiderate cycling leads to even more aggressive inconsiderate driving, a lose lose situation.

Normally enjoy a good debate but confrontational attitudes out on the road could potentially be dangerous.
 
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