Where exactly is this four mile long road near Fulking where she was stuck behind them for 17 minutes of horn blowing?
cyclists blocking the road
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Where exactly is this four mile long road near Fulking where she was stuck behind them for 17 minutes of horn blowing?
Muddy Ground
New Member
On the news that she was listening to in her car, did the traffic section happen to state that a bunch of Fulking cyclists were blocking the road?
MG
p.s. Sorry, couldn't resist.
MG
p.s. Sorry, couldn't resist.
I wonder if its the same person and bunch of cyclists? 
OP
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funnymummy
A Dizzy M.A.B.I.L
- Location
- Lancing West Sussex
I appreciate your experience & i'd happily take any advice you have to give, but how can you make a judgement..?
Do you know which road this happened on..?
I don't, my friend didn't mention the road name, only it was on her way to Fulking, it could have been A283, A2037, A281, Clappers Lane or Poynings Road.
You cannot make a judgemnet when you do not know what to judge
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Third time -you're groundlessly dismissing one of the possible scenarios.
In your experience of group rides -you've never seen cyclists going too far?
[/quote]since you ask - in more years than I care to think about, and on more rides than I could possibly remember - other than CM - no. Absolutely not. What I have seen time and time again is the people at the back letting cars by that then move in on the group, squeezing riders toward the verge. I've seen it on fast BC club rides, I've seen it on CTC rides and on an Audax. I've seen it occasionally on the FNRttC (I got forced in to a left turn when a car did an overtake and then run out of road when they wanted to turn left), but these days we've got a bit of a presence, and people tend to not take the piss.
You might argue that holding up the traffic on the South Circular is 'going too far' but that's life. I stop the traffic so that 100 cyclists can make their way. Think of it as democracy in action.
Third time -you're groundlessly dismissing one of the possible scenarios.
In your experience of group rides -you've never seen cyclists going too far?
[/quote]since you ask - in more years than I care to think about, and on more rides than I could possibly remember - other than CM - no. Absolutely not. What I have seen time and time again is the people at the back letting cars by that then move in on the group, squeezing riders toward the verge. I've seen it on fast BC club rides, I've seen it on CTC rides and on an Audax. I've seen it occasionally on the FNRttC (I got forced in to a left turn when a car did an overtake and then run out of road when they wanted to turn left), but these days we've got a bit of a presence, and people tend to not take the piss.
You might argue that holding up the traffic on the South Circular is 'going too far' but that's life. I stop the traffic so that 100 cyclists can make their way. Think of it as democracy in action.
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Third time -you're groundlessly dismissing one of the possible scenarios. Groundlessly because there's no possibility that you could know it not to be the case.
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There are plenty of permutations, do you want me to start listing them?
Third time -you're groundlessly dismissing one of the possible scenarios. Groundlessly because there's no possibility that you could know it not to be the case.
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There are plenty of permutations, do you want me to start listing them?
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No, that would be daft. Which reinforces the futility of deciding which side of the fence to be on given what we know.
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I could work it out, it's just a waste of my time when people know perfectly well that however many cyclists wide they were 1 or 10, if it is a narrow road a driver knows perfectly well how they are supposed to behave - no horns, no overtaking on bends, no overtaking if the road isn't wide enough. I really don't see what can be practically be done about it. It's just how it is.
No, that would be daft. Which reinforces the futility of deciding which side of the fence to be on given what we know.
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I could work it out, it's just a waste of my time when people know perfectly well that however many cyclists wide they were 1 or 10, if it is a narrow road a driver knows perfectly well how they are supposed to behave - no horns, no overtaking on bends, no overtaking if the road isn't wide enough. I really don't see what can be practically be done about it. It's just how it is.
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You're right.
And people also know perfectly well that if cyclists are holding up traffic and there's an opportunity for them to let it pass safely, then it's easy to move over, in the space we all have to share.
The cyclists' actions didn't warrant the response, but it may be that the cyclists' actions weren't ideal.
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Opinions vary too much on what is 'aggressive' riding and what is safe - I've been on plenty of urban rides where people have been complaining about cyclists all over the road. What really makes me chuckle is being called an aggressive rider by someone only for in some cases a few seconds later that person (perhaps a gutter hugger) gets into a swearing match with a taxi driver or pedestrian. I see it happening to other people too.
Similarly as a driver I've been sat in a car and had front seat passengers trying to egg me on to use the horn or having a rant at some cyclist/car that I think wtf are they talking about, they need to chill out. As a front seat passenger I've seen drivers do the same.
As a cyclist I'm perfectly willing to indulge a closer overtake than many others might as long as they do it sensibly and planned - if they knock someone off however they should be looking at very severe consequences. There's far too much of people waiting too long and then lunging past.
I suspect the reactions were from the horn, and a cyclist who drives should really know better and what horn use means in a driving culture like this. In an ideal world you'd get the horn used sensibly and not overused or used aggressively. All of us in the UK know perfectly well this is a much rarer occurance than should be. I've had utterly bizarre discussions with drivers who were nice enough people and very misguided, I just hope none of them came up against someone more aggressive, you can see where some of these things are going a mile off.
You're right.
And people also know perfectly well that if cyclists are holding up traffic and there's an opportunity for them to let it pass safely, then it's easy to move over, in the space we all have to share.
The cyclists' actions didn't warrant the response, but it may be that the cyclists' actions weren't ideal.
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Opinions vary too much on what is 'aggressive' riding and what is safe - I've been on plenty of urban rides where people have been complaining about cyclists all over the road. What really makes me chuckle is being called an aggressive rider by someone only for in some cases a few seconds later that person (perhaps a gutter hugger) gets into a swearing match with a taxi driver or pedestrian. I see it happening to other people too.
Similarly as a driver I've been sat in a car and had front seat passengers trying to egg me on to use the horn or having a rant at some cyclist/car that I think wtf are they talking about, they need to chill out. As a front seat passenger I've seen drivers do the same.
As a cyclist I'm perfectly willing to indulge a closer overtake than many others might as long as they do it sensibly and planned - if they knock someone off however they should be looking at very severe consequences. There's far too much of people waiting too long and then lunging past.
I suspect the reactions were from the horn, and a cyclist who drives should really know better and what horn use means in a driving culture like this. In an ideal world you'd get the horn used sensibly and not overused or used aggressively. All of us in the UK know perfectly well this is a much rarer occurance than should be. I've had utterly bizarre discussions with drivers who were nice enough people and very misguided, I just hope none of them came up against someone more aggressive, you can see where some of these things are going a mile off.
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
I was really surprised and delighted when I got a toot, toot like that the other week :-)
And lots of people don't know the difference between aggressive riding and assertive riding.
Which amounts to the same thing in their minds. They (cyclists) think you're doing it to annoy other people.
asterix
Comrade Member
- Location
- Limoges or York
That is true.
In this part of France they usually do it some distance before reaching me, not just behind me. Mind you it took me a while to get used to the patience demonstrated by French motorists on the country roads round here!
Tomorrow I drive 1200km back to York. I shall be patient wherever necessary and have allowed myself plenty of time.
