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Beebo

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This looks like the test won't last 3 days. 80 - 4.
It was looking so good at 80-4.
81-5 now. Not going well is it.
 

T4tomo

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Ah yes. I remember the heady optimism of 80-4 ...
I'd say 74-2 with Root and Sibley in was the last time it looked anything like good or optimistic.

Still its not like their spinners are taking all the wickets.... oh hang on....
 
A good toss to lose, even though Kohli said he’d bat first if he’d won the toss. At least India have a more balanced bowling attack.
Unless Root and Silverwood have inside information about the pitch, I can’t believe why they only picked one specialist spinner. 😳:wacko:
 

deptfordmarmoset

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So, it's time to see how difficult it is to bat on this wicket.
 

T4tomo

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A good toss to lose, even though Kohli said he’d bat first if he’d won the toss. At least India have a more balanced bowling attack.
Unless Root and Silverwood have inside information about the pitch, I can’t believe why they only picked one specialist spinner. 😳:wacko:
no-one had inside information on the pitch, its a brand new stadium pitch etc, and its day-night / pink ball
 
no-one had inside information on the pitch, its a brand new stadium pitch etc, and its day-night / pink ball
That’s my point.
Playing a Test in India with only one accomplished spinner isn’t a great move.
Their left-armer took 6 England wickets and the offie 3, in this 1st innings on day one.

Reminds me of the series a few years ago when England heavily lost the 1st Test: Swann, the one recognised spinner, bowled tons of overs, then Panesar was picked for the remaining Tests and took a bucketful of wickets and England won the series 2-1.

You don’t go to Australia/West Indies without playing fast bowlers: likewise you don’t go to India without playing spinnerS.
 

deptfordmarmoset

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That’s my point.
Playing a Test in India with only one accomplished spinner isn’t a great move.
Their left-armer took 6 England wickets and the offie 3, in this 1st innings on day one.

Reminds me of the series a few years ago when England heavily lost the 1st Test: Swann, the one recognised spinner, bowled tons of overs, then Panesar was picked for the remaining Tests and took a bucketful of wickets and England won the series 2-1.

You don’t go to Australia/West Indies without playing fast bowlers: likewise you don’t go to India without playing spinnerS.
Added to which the England pace bowlers are having difficulty with disintegrating footmarks. And that's only on day 1. It will be a mammoth task bowling fast and well on that surface.

Is it just me or is Stokes a confidence player who's currently without confidence? If so, then it was Ashwin who broke him during the previous test.
 

T4tomo

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That’s my point.
Playing a Test in India with only one accomplished spinner isn’t a great move.
Their left-armer took 6 England wickets and the offie 3, in this 1st innings on day one.

Reminds me of the series a few years ago when England heavily lost the 1st Test: Swann, the one recognised spinner, bowled tons of overs, then Panesar was picked for the remaining Tests and took a bucketful of wickets and England won the series 2-1.

You don’t go to Australia/West Indies without playing fast bowlers: likewise you don’t go to India without playing spinnerS.
I agree with you. I think they were seduced by the fact that it swung a bit when India last played with a pink ball in India . But if you have Jimmy, Jofra or Broad and Stokes, a 3 prong seam attack has to be enough, as if its hooping around, thats enough to run through them, and if its not, having one spinner plus Root isnt enough.

that said, its the batting that has let us down so far...
 
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