Pale Rider
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Oh dear, Burns has just mis-hooked to mid on.
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Dayvo
just passin' through
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And my first visit to Cricbuzz saw Denley out LBW.
158/3 needing another 218 - should do it with the batting to come.
158/3 needing another 218 - should do it with the batting to come.
Dayvo
just passin' through
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And time is a plenty - 70+ overs today plus the 5th day tomorrow.
Beebo
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I suspect we will get close but fall short.
The first innings was a shambles.
The first innings was a shambles.
Beebo
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Well England didn’t even get close.
Not surprised on a final day wicket,
the final 5 wickets today and the final 7 wickets in the first innings made a total of just over 80 runs. They used to pride themselves on batting right down the order.
Not surprised on a final day wicket,
the final 5 wickets today and the final 7 wickets in the first innings made a total of just over 80 runs. They used to pride themselves on batting right down the order.
Dayvo
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Final day, yes, but it was only a 4th day wicket!
Inexperience at Test level with first three batsmen (coincidentally both the openers are from Epsom) putting more pressure on the mid/lower order batsmen.
England succeed in far too many series by losing the opening Test, which makes a come-back harder. But Test cricket isn't prioritised and young players ply their trade (and technique) in the shorter versions of the game, which also happens to be where the financial gain are greater and more available.
Smokin Joe
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Another VAR controversy in the Liverpool - Wolves game yesterday. Time to ditch the sorry mess and go back to letting the referee decide for better or for worse. The flow of the game is being ruined.
Beebo
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I know you have posted this in the wrong thread. But it does raise comparisons with cricket.
The LBW decision uses ‘Umpires Call’. So marginal decisions stay with the on field umpire.
VAR should be the same. It’s for Clear and Obvious errors. Not microscopic issues.
Smokin Joe
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Ooops, so I have. Could a mod kindly move it to the football thread, please?
Beebo
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The ECB seems to be supporting a proposal for 4 day test matches. What a joke. The game is going the wrong bonkers.
Pale Rider
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It might be the wrong thread, but the point about wrecking the flow of the game applies to both cricket and football.
Test match cricket overs were already taking too long to bowl.
The video appeals system has made matters worse.
nickyboy
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Very much disagree with this. At international level the really poor umpiring decision has been eradicated from the game. Technology has also given umpires confidence to give players out when they wouldn't have done previously and this has brought specialists such as spinners more into the game. The review system is quick and transparent. It works very well and football could learn a lot from how cricket uses it.
Pale Rider
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One or two reviews I've seen, admittedly only on the telly, have been anything but quick or transparent.
The transparency aspect being hindered by the lbw laws, which are not easy to grasp.
What's all this "umpire's call" cobblers?
They spend several minutes going through all the video geekery, then tell the umpire to decide, except he might have already done so.
Meanwhile, a few more viewers flick channels never to return.
AndyRM
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I don't think I've ever seen a review take longer than a minute, and that's with all the options used available (4, I believe). Even if they were longer, it's not like it matters in a game which takes 5 days. Yes, limited overs cricket is all very exciting and what have you, but give me the nuance of Test cricket any day of the week. Also, the commentary in Test cricket is absolutely the finest going, Bill Bryson's take on it is absolutely spot on.
http://www.wandererscricket.com/Yank_view.html
Anyway, I am pleased to see England building a healthy lead so far. Anything over 200 and I reckon they'll level the series. It's enjoyable to watch two sides both in transitional stages.
http://www.wandererscricket.com/Yank_view.html
Anyway, I am pleased to see England building a healthy lead so far. Anything over 200 and I reckon they'll level the series. It's enjoyable to watch two sides both in transitional stages.
nickyboy
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You're failing to understand the overarching premise of the review system in cricket
The idea is that it still leaves the decision making in the hands of the on field upmpires but removes the obviously wrong decisions. So you have a spectrum...umpire made obviously right decision to umpire made obviously wrong decision. Then in the middle are those too close for an onfield umpire to call. For these, the final "decision" is to go with the onfield umpire's decision. It's pretty straightforward really
