COVID Vaccine !

[SpokeyDokey]

According to this we are now up to 2.68m vaccinations (no breakdown of multiple doses):

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

 

[Ajax Bay]

why they don't use bigger vials with more doses in them

(from Dr J Campbell video - why not 50ml vials so 100 doses per vial?)
Currently the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines are supplied with 6 doses, expecting assured 5 + wastage. And the Oxford-AZ vaccine is typically in vials containing 8/10 doses:
•80 dose packs (Ten 4 ml vials with 8 doses per vial)
•100 dose packs (Ten 5 ml vials with 10 doses per vial) (less common)
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/index.html
Edit: to add link to @mjr comment (downthread) which explains the practical reasons (not a 'finish and fill' issue) why this (rough) size of vial is used:
#https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/the-covid-vaccine-thread.267960/page-67#post-6269639

 

[midlife]

(from Dr J Campbell video - why not 50ml vials so 100 doses per vial?)
Currently the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines are supplied with 6 doses, expecting assured 5 + wastage. And the Oxford-AZ vaccine is typically in vials containing 8/10 doses:
•80 dose packs (Ten 4 ml vials with 8 doses per vial)
•100 dose packs (Ten 5 ml vials with 10 doses per vial) (less common)
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/index.html

We have been told to use the special no waste syringes and get 6 doses out of each Pfizer vial.

 

[tom73]

to clarify - I meant safety for the elderly person who had had the single/double jab. not the person visiting them.

oh sorry which ever vaccine they have, one dose or both they will have a level of protection. They may still go on to catch covid but more mild and less chance of needing hospital admission or death. Any vaccine if only one dose is a hell of a lot less risk than no vaccine at all. Which go's for anyone what ever age.

 

[mjr]

A question posed by Dr John Campbell in his video series on youtube today was why they don't use bigger vials with more doses in them if they are short of the vials they are using currently.

That was answered in this week's podcast from, I think, BBC Radio 4 ("How to vaccinate the world" with Tim Harford). Basically, bigger vials means you lose more each time a mistake is made or if there is any contamination. It's a trade-off or optimisation problem and no-one knows the best answer for sure before they set up all the tooling for a specific size.

 

[Rusty Nails]

A friend of mine aged 79 had his vaccination today, after being contacted yesterday. He has no underlying conditions and doesn't know whether it was part of the planned rollout or whether they had short notice spare capacity.

I might get mine by mid-Feb at this rate.

 

[kingrollo]

Getting mine tommorow. !

 

[Julia9054]

A friend of mine aged 79 had his vaccination today, after being contacted yesterday. He has no underlying conditions and doesn't know whether it was part of the planned rollout or whether they had short notice spare capacity.

I might get mine by mid-Feb at this rate.

My mum is 79 and had hers just before Christmas. She thinks it was because she rung the surgery about something else and then asked

 

[kynikos]

Had mine this afternoon. 68, key worker, NHS 3rd party provider.

 

[winjim]

Just got my invitation to make an appointment this Fri or Sat. Bit weird as I'm sure there are people I work with who should be higher priority but I'm not going to turn it down.

Firstly I need to unblind myself to see if I've already had it...

 

[vickster]

Just got my invitation to make an appointment this Fri or Sat. Bit weird as I'm sure there are people I work with who should be higher priority but I'm not going to turn it down.

Firstly I need to unblind myself to see if I've already had it...

Friend of mine (frontline hospital consultant) was involved in the trial...unblinded...she’s now (partially) vaccinated against Covid...
And meningitis!

 

[winjim]

Friend of mine (frontline hospital consultant) was involved in the trial...unblinded...she’s now (partially) vaccinated against Covid...
And meningitis!

Yes, my colleague is now fully vaccinated against meningitis.

But I've just unblinded myself and I was in the vaccine group. So I'm fully vaccinated and there's no need for me to have any more. Whoop whoop, I was fine all along...

 

[vickster]

Yes, my colleague is now fully vaccinated against meningitis.

But I've just unblinded myself and I was in the vaccine group. So I'm fully vaccinated and there's no need for me to have any more. Whoop whoop, I was fine all along...

Now you can go out cycling for as long as you want...
oh hang on, the vaccine doesn't necessarily stop you giving it to others (or actually catching it)

 

[winjim]

Now you can go out cycling for as long as you want...
oh hang on, the vaccine doesn't stop you giving it to others (or actually catching it)

Yeah, I still don't want to give it to my kids (or anyone else for that matter). I wonder if and when there will be a children's vaccine.

 

[vickster]

Yeah, I still don't want to give it to my kids (or anyone else for that matter). I wonder if and when there will be a children's vaccine.

Don't know, are there any trials? It is much lower risk for kids though (although they are little plague carriers obviously)