COVID Vaccine !

[Joey Shabadoo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55577426

A fraudster claiming to work for the NHS injected a 92-year-old woman with a fake Covid-19 vaccine, City of London Police has said.
Detectives are hunting the man who charged the victim in Surbiton, south-west London, £160.

Words ... I have none.

 

[classic33]

Postponing rather than 'cancelling'?

Well they're telling people who should have been getting the second jab "You'll be contacted when we're ready for you". After telling them to make sure they keep the date given, for the second jab, clear.

 

[lane]

Well they're telling people who should have been getting the second jab "You'll be contacted when we're ready for you". After telling them to make sure they keep the date given, for the second jab, clear.

My Dad got his jab on Wednesday this week. They booked his second jab at the same time exactly 12 weeks later.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Good to hear people here getting their jab, & sometimes their second.
We are awaiting the MIL to get hers: 88, clinically vulnerable, but Nottinghamshire appear to be very slow with getting the vaccine out: nothing yet

I really wish that SAGE and the Government did not postpone the second dose beyond the 3 weeks Pfizer say it needs.
I couldn’t believe the SAGE scientist on the BBCQT show defending the decision.
From the link above: “Pfizer said their vaccine was not designed to be used in two doses 12 weeks apart, adding that there was no data to suggest the first shot continued to be effective after 21 days.”
WHO agree.

MAYBE it will all be fine.....
....or MAYBE it will dramatically reduce the impact of the vaccine, & in 6-12 weeks we could find cases of people who had the first shot getting COVID.
I hope I’m wrong, but it does royally p*ss me off when our Great Leaders talk about “following the science”, yet they and SAGE are clearly explicitly ignoring the science on this very important point, just in order to be able to say “we jabbed more people”
Good luck all.

I don't think they are ignoring the science, they are just adapting the approach to ensure that as many people as possible get at least the first jab in as quickly as possible. JVT explained the simple maths a couple of press conferences back.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Excellent and reassuring explanation of the logistics process from Brigadier Prosser last night.

And good to see the entire country getting mobilised behind the effort.

Lots of positivity from people I have spoken to over the last week or so re the vaccination effort.

 

[classic33]

My Dad got his jab on Wednesday this week. They booked his second jab at the same time exactly 12 weeks later.

The one's I know were all told 21 days. Since the start of this week/year they've been informed that their appointement has been cancelled and that they'll be contacted within 6 - 8 weeks. No date given, just that they'll be contacted.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

The one's I know were all told 21 days. Since the start of this week/year they've been informed that their appointement has been cancelled and that they'll be contacted within 6 - 8 weeks. No date given, just that they'll be contacted.

Same with an over 80's couple that we know here - they are both happy with the process change and are onboard with the delay decision.

 

[lane]

I think the difference is between those that were vaccinated before the change and those like my dad who have been vaccinated after the change.

 

[BoldonLad]

I don't think they are ignoring the science, they are just adapting the approach to ensure that as many people as possible get at least the first jab in as quickly as possible. JVT explained the simple maths a couple of press conferences back.

On reading this, I thought, "such a reasonable spot needs to be reported", then, I noticed, you ARE a moderator

I did watch (and listen to) the JVT explanation, seemed reasonable to me.

 

[classic33]

All that I know who've had their appointment for the second cancelled, should have received their second jab this week.

Some had heard of the 12 week wait, but they've been given 6 - 8 weeks before they'll be contacted. No new appointments having been made as yet.

 

[vickster]

All that I know who've had their appointment for the second cancelled, should have received their second jab this week.

Some had heard of the 12 week wait, but they've been given 6 - 8 weeks before they'll be contacted. No new appointments having been made as yet.

What’s the issue? The change to 12 weeks has been well publicised? They’ll get their second appointment confirmed 4-6 weeks before the jab at 12 weeks. There are many more vaccination centres coming on stream. It’s possible the second jab may be elsewhere and that’s simply yet to be confirmed and there’s no need to confirm more than 4-6 weeks in advance. Not like anyone should be going anywhere which may render them unavailable in a given week

 

[winjim]

AIUI they're not making second appointments due to the admin workload involved in unbooking and rebooking all the first appointments.

 

[classic33]

What’s the issue? The change to 12 weeks has been well publicised? They’ll get their second appointment confirmed 4-6 weeks before the jab at 12 weeks. There are many more vaccination centres coming on stream. It’s possible the second jab may be elsewhere and that’s simply yet to be confirmed and there’s no need to confirm more than 4-6 weeks in advance. Not like anyone should be going anywhere which may render them unavailable in a given week

I think the issue is, they were given a date on which the second "had" to be done. Then when that time arrived/got close, they were told it's not going to happen.

 

[lane]

I think the issue is, they were given a date on which the second "had" to be done. Then when that time arrived/got close, they were told it's not going to happen.

The policy has changed. I think this will inevitably cause some people anxiety and not everyone agrees with the change but it is what it is.

 

[winjim]

I think the issue is, they were given a date on which the second "had" to be done. Then when that time arrived/got close, they were told it's not going to happen.

The concern with this is that it potentially violates informed consent as well as undermining patient confidence and therefore possibly compliance.