COVID Vaccine !

[lane]

FTFY

Well it does depend what studies you read. According to one from (I think) Oxford I was reading yesterday they calculated that Pfizer was over 90% effective with one jab after three weeks. But don't worry I will be carefully following all the rules jab or no jab until told differently.

 

[lane]

Actually University of east Anglia

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ab-gives-90-immunity-from-covid-after-21-days

 

[Ajax Bay]

Report-to-jcvi-on-estimated-efficacy-of-single-vaccine-dose (Pfizer)
52% up to 90% depending how you calculate it. There ought to be about 5 million data points available for a single dose of Pfizer now (all those in UK with a first dose (Pfizer) since 20 Dec).
Here is the U of EA non-peer reviewed paper "Estimating the effectiveness of the Pfizer COVID-19 BNT162b2 vaccine after a single dose. A reanalysis of a study of ‘real-world’ vaccination outcomes from Israel"
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.01.21250957v1
See the second comment on that paper. Getting a 90% result does depend on careful choices of which day 18-22 and with period you choose as 'normal'. Also overall case rate varied significantly in Israel over that period, further widening the confidence interval of the paper's headline finding.

 

[classic33]

Had to turn down/decline the first jab next week. There's concern (it appears) that the Pfizer vaccine isn't suitable for people who've had strong reactions to other medications.

I, for one, wouldn't want the person administering the vaccine to be held responsible if there was a reaction.

 

[rockyroller]

finally a pre-existing condition I qualify for! obesity!

 

[PK99]

Had to turn down/decline the first jab next week. There's concern (it appears) that the Pfizer vaccine isn't suitable for people who've had strong reactions to other medications.

I, for one, wouldn't want the person administering the vaccine to be held responsible if there was a reaction.

My understanding was that the concern was wrt anaphylaxis history

That is expressly addressed here along with other concers

https://www.anaphylaxis.org.uk/covid-19-advice/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-and-allergies/

 

[vickster]

finally a pre-existing condition I qualify for! obesity!

In the UK, it's morbid obesity, BMI 40+

 

[classic33]

My understanding was that the concern was wrt anaphylaxis history

That is expressly addressed here along with other concers

https://www.anaphylaxis.org.uk/covid-19-advice/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-and-allergies/

Does sudden cardiac arrest count?

 

[vickster]

Had to turn down/decline the first jab next week. There's concern (it appears) that the Pfizer vaccine isn't suitable for people who've had strong reactions to other medications.

I, for one, wouldn't want the person administering the vaccine to be held responsible if there was a reaction.

Check with your GP/specialist or phone the Vaccine helpline (119?)

 

[vickster]

Does sudden cardiac arrest count?

Depends what caused it presumably

From the Gov website https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ovid-19-vaccination-easy-read-guide#allergies

 

[Ajax Bay]

The NHS clarified the last couple of days that the fantastical aims they've said about doing 7 million vaccinations per week is based on JCVI rather lazily just ploughing downwards through the age categories 45-49 etc as it's quicker and supply issues will be sorted. That only makes sense if you keep things restricted till the summer. It also means you have to deliver the goods. Unfortunately the vaccination drive has slowed down of late, not speeded up, something which does not seem to have been picked up by the media.

Moving this to the 'vaccine' thread. Not sure whether the massive increase in rate of vaccination was a 'what if' rather than even an aim. I have assumed that the daily rate established 400k+ will be maintained for this second 'sprint' (to complete the first phase (Gps 1-9) by end April) and then the marathon of 'the rest' followed by school age (September) and then autumn booster for the oldies (O65 plus, so likely the 20M in Gps 1-6) in the autumn, maybe with a vaccine optimised for what might be the prevalent or most challenging virus.
The supply issue to which you refer will soon become apparent (to the media) but be transient. The supply profile was structured to allow the sprint to the 15 Feb target to be hit and a lean period (?fortnight) expected till March. The leaked Scottish supply shape gave an insight to that back in early Jan (see my post from ?19 Jan and rehashed here https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/covid-vaccine.267960/page-152#post-6311862).
"Supplies for the next week or so will mean the vaccination rate (per day) will be lower for the second half of February (but pick up again in March)."

 

[classic33]

Depends what caused it presumably

From the Gov website https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ovid-19-vaccination-easy-read-guide#allergies

Lignocaine. Given in the A&E as they went to start treatment.

It was the GP that decided it was best to decline.

I've to wait until I hear from someone else now.

 

[guitarpete247]

I had phone call yesterday offering me jab this Saturday. All the health questions I was asked, over the phone, were to do with reaction to vaccinations and allergic reactions. Do I suffer from anaphylactic shock etc. They told me I would be there for about 20 mins. This leads me to think I may be being given the Pfizer jab. Does that sound right.

 

[marinyork]

Moving this to the 'vaccine' thread. Not sure whether the massive increase in rate of vaccination was a 'what if' rather than even an aim. I have assumed that the daily rate established 400k+ will be maintained for this second 'sprint' (to complete the first phase (Gps 1-9) by end April) and then the marathon of 'the rest' followed by school age (September) and then autumn booster for the oldies (O65 plus, so likely the 20M in Gps 1-6) in the autumn, maybe with a vaccine optimised for what might be the prevalent or most challenging virus.
The supply issue to which you refer will soon become apparent (to the media) but be transient. The supply profile was structured to allow the sprint to the 15 Feb target to be hit and a lean period (?fortnight) expected till March. The leaked Scottish supply shape gave an insight to that back in early Jan (see my post from ?19 Jan and rehashed here https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/covid-vaccine.267960/page-152#post-6311862).
"Supplies for the next week or so will mean the vaccination rate (per day) will be lower for the second half of February (but pick up again in March)."

I know all that and in fact that's trivial, but with respect if you think people can't read graphs that they've already seen, the discussion isn't going to get very far when in another post you're asking for graphics such as evidence lockdowns work locally such as the covid dashboard.

I've assumed that it'll stay at about 400k, which is bad news except for those over 50 who are all right jack, sod everyone else and we're already seeing quite a bit of that even on here. You can't separate the different aspects, the two parts go together, if you don't deliver the goods on upping then ploughing through the age ranges at the same or slower rate is the wrong decision. Or extend restrictions, but we're already seeing a backlash by over 50s who want to disappear off to the pub. It doesn't negate doing a younger age range such as 18-24 by age before some of the others either.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Depends if they're allowing 15 minutes before for admin and queuing (in which case Oxford AZ). Matters not.