lane
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Vaccination rate in China is very low surprisingly. Although covid rates are also very low.
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Vaccination rate in China is very low surprisingly. Although covid rates are also very low.
mjr
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Rationing ended 1954. A 75-year-old would have been 8 then and few 8-year-olds would have been planning the household shopping.
That sort of generalisation is just ageism. There are various reasons why over-75s tend to be keener for the vaccines, reported in the various surveys, but it ain't all about the war, despite what populists may pretend.
vickster
Legendary Member
Maybe but the Chinese vaccine is being used widely in the ME...I wondered if they had published any data yet
This on the BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-55907903
There is something in The Lancet...but I've no time to read
https://www.thelancet.com/article/S1473-3099(20)30843-4/fulltext
Ref Covid rates being low...depends if the data are comprehensive
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10 Million done now, not bad I don't think.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
I think there are (at least) two, with different technologies. No idea which is being used in ME. I don't think phase 3 results have been published or submitted to a western agency.
vickster
Legendary Member
The client mentioned Sinovac / vax (?) as I did upthread (the other main one is Sinopharm according to the BBC video)
Ajax Bay
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The Lancet piece is a November insight to the Sinovax Phase 1/2 trial. Phase 3 trial data - not seen.
Spot on with the data 'dependency'. Also depends on the sensitivity of the testing - we use a high sensitivity PCR analysis to determine positive/negative aiui, which generates many more positives, even among those with no symptoms, or recovered testees.
As the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Dr. Anthony Fauci said (in June) "If you get a cycle threshold of 35 or more, the chances of it being replication-competent are minuscule." [NB Such a result <35 Ct, doesn't mean the person tested hasn't got (or had) COVID-19 but it does mean they're not contagious, aiui.]
We (and others eg USA) have been using a high cycle threshold (Ct) level (?>40) iaw the WHO guidance.
This is going to be a greater 'issue' down the line.
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From Telegraph Report
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Teachers are abusing the vaccine booking system and skipping the queue ahead of the elderly, a council warned as it introduced tighter rules.
Headteachers in Rochdale were contacted after the NHS alerted council chiefs in Greater Manchester that teachers had got hold of the booking link for vaccines and were turning up to be inoculated.
"It has come to our attention that a booking link sent to NHS employees to book a vaccination slot at one of the identified hospital sites has been inappropriately shared," said Gail Hopper, the director of children's services at Rochdale Borough Council.
"This was not the intention when the non-transferable link was provided, and should not have happened. Not surprisingly, it is now spreading widely."
Ms Hopper said school staff had been booking appointments and turning up at vaccination centres and to get jabs, adding: "Others are now planning to do the same."
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Ummm, Would such behaviour be in breach of Teachers' Professional Standards and leave them open to disciplinary action?
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Teachers are abusing the vaccine booking system and skipping the queue ahead of the elderly, a council warned as it introduced tighter rules.
Headteachers in Rochdale were contacted after the NHS alerted council chiefs in Greater Manchester that teachers had got hold of the booking link for vaccines and were turning up to be inoculated.
"It has come to our attention that a booking link sent to NHS employees to book a vaccination slot at one of the identified hospital sites has been inappropriately shared," said Gail Hopper, the director of children's services at Rochdale Borough Council.
"This was not the intention when the non-transferable link was provided, and should not have happened. Not surprisingly, it is now spreading widely."
Ms Hopper said school staff had been booking appointments and turning up at vaccination centres and to get jabs, adding: "Others are now planning to do the same."
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Ummm, Would such behaviour be in breach of Teachers' Professional Standards and leave them open to disciplinary action?
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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Dunno, but doing no authentication beyond "has got hold of the booking link" should be a breach of the Web Developers' Professional Standards!
I wonder if the page even had anything on it to say it was for NHS employees only...?
There was a loophole on the National Immunisation Booking System whereby anybody without a letter could bypass the checks and originate the booking.
This loophole was apparently spread on FB and was picked up and is now closed (not checked it myself!)
it’s been reported that anybody turning up who doesnt appear to be in cohorts 1-4 will be challenged and turned away.
This loophole was apparently spread on FB and was picked up and is now closed (not checked it myself!)
it’s been reported that anybody turning up who doesnt appear to be in cohorts 1-4 will be challenged and turned away.
if it’s like the ones I’ve seen, they are not for NHS employees only but The procedure is not to share the link externally and book on behalf of a HSCW (It sounds like somebody passed it on either in error, or willingly) These hospital appointments were initially used for 80+ patients and now are also being used CEV patients under 18 as only Pfizer is licensed for these patients and again, the booking should be made on behalf of the patient and the link not forwarded.
lane
Veteran
Government seem to be suggesting they need to do 500,000 a day from now on to meet the 15th February target. Limiting factor is vaccine supply.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/about-4000-covid-variants-across-world-uk-minister
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/about-4000-covid-variants-across-world-uk-minister
Ajax Bay
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Zahawi “You can see that in the next 10 or so days, we’ve got to do another almost touching 5 million"
Hasn't done the maths. Less than 4M to be done in 10 days. Done as at 3 Feb: Gp 1 = 99%, Gp 2 = 90+%, Gp 3 = 90%, Gp 4 (3.3M) = 40%. Fails to acknowledge refusal/unable numbers. Target is to offer vaccine (first dose) to all those in Gps 1-4, not to give 15M first doses. Let's not shift goalposts.
I too understand that vaccine supply (as opposed to other elements of 'delivery' system) is the limiter. That's why, in my estimates, I have been prudent - using 2.5M doses delivered a week (well below the average achieved in the last fortnight).
From your link
Zahawi “We will set out our target (for vaccinating groups 5-9) after we have hit our February 15 target. But you can do the maths."
Asked whether that meant it would take another 35 days from 15 February to have jabbed all 31 million people in the first nine cohorts, replied: “That assumes the supply"
The interviewer has not done their maths or are just fishing. They've (completely) failed to take into account the requirement for second doses which will kick in from 14 Mar, effectively halving the rate of first dose delivery from then on. As I've previously shared (NB assumptions) a reasonable estimate for giving (at least) the first dose to all the JCVI priority groups (1-9) is 30 Apr (1-4 by 15 Feb, then 10M by 15 Mar, then 5M by 12 Apr, then rest by 30 Apr).
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