COVID Vaccine !

[lane]

So if you meet the clinical definition of severe asthma you are in group 4 and everyone else with asthma is just in with their age group? Despite having been classed as clinically vulnerable under previous definitions? (I vaguely remember this has already been discussed here but can't remember what was said)

That's my reading of the current situation based on the guidance. Group 6 definition included everything but says some of these will be dealt with under group 4. Severe asthma is in group 4 and there is no other asthma categories in group 6. You never know with Covid, but I have just had a cold that went straight to an upper respiratory infection and has listed three weeks making my asthma quite a lot worse. I am therefore quite worried about how covid would impact me. But it seems that, based on the evidence I guess, that asthma isn't regarded as too much of a risk. Although I think we are still included in vulnerable group but it does not seem to read across to criteria for vaccinations.

 

[lane]

Asthma is group 6 according to gov.Uk
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...id-19-vaccination-first-phase-priority-groups

Severe asthma is a different thing

 

[vickster]

Severe asthma is a different thing

Yeah I missed severe. I didn’t think mild-moderate asthma was ever in clinically vulnerable?
if concerned, talk to GP

 

[lane]

Last I heard British Heart Foundation / Asthma UK were seeking Futher clarification regarding asthma

 

[vickster]

Heart for Lung Foundation?
yep seems to be the case
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/tr...hat-should-people-with-asthma-do-now/#Vaccine

 

[lane]

Heart for Lung Foundation?
yep seems to be the case
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/tr...hat-should-people-with-asthma-do-now/#Vaccine

It says they HAVE been told people with asthma not CEV WILL be in group 6 but are urgently seeking confirmation on this. They have been doing that urgently for some weeks. Clear as mud really.

 

[lane]

Yeah I missed severe. I didn’t think mild-moderate asthma was ever in clinically vulnerable?
if concerned, talk to GP

I believe that the vulnerable group - not CEV - included all who had flu vaccine - which is people with asthma so my reading they were vulnerable group.

 

[vickster]

I believe that the vulnerable group - not CEV - included all who had flu vaccine - which is people with asthma so my reading they were vulnerable group.

Indeed. You’ll presumably find out when group 6 is ready to be vaccinated. A while off yet

 

[lane]

Indeed. You’ll presumably find out when group 6 is ready to be vaccinated. A while off yet

Yep. I'm 58 so probably won't make a vast difference for me either way.

 

[vickster]

Indeed. My 78 year old CeV father is only being vaccinated on Tuesday and my 75 year old mother hasn’t yet heard. Plenty still to be vaccinated in groups 1-3 as well

im 48 with no conditions, I don’t expect to get called up before the summer if that soon, can’t control it beyond sticking to the rules so no point stressing

 

[lane]

Over 4 million adults with asthma in the UK so one way or the other will make a big difference to the size of group 6

 

[vickster]

Over 4 million adults with asthma in the UK so one way or the other will make a big difference to the size of group 6

Many will be in groups 1-5 though. Similar to other clinically vulnerable groups

 

[lane]

Many will be in groups 1-5 though

True

 

[nickyboy]

Even a slow and cumbersome behemoth like Microsoft could have got basic functionality like that into a IT system they literally had nine months to deliver.

The vaccine rollout isn't a surprise. The world knew in early 2020 that vaccines for Covid could well be available towards the end of the year, and would need a delivery system. The world already has quite a lot of the infrastructure to deliver vaccines on a massive scale - in this country it's done via GP surgeries. All that needed to happen was to add to the existing infastructure and make sure that the different vaccine dosers could talk to each other and update appropriate records.

Compared with the monstrously difficult tasks of developing the vaccine in the first place and getting the doses of vaccine where they needed, that was a relatively easy problem. But for all the success of getting first doses into arms surprisingly quickly we don't seem to have solved it.

I'm confused.

If the world knew about the vaccine rollout and it is a relatively straightforward matter, why are most countries comparable with UK in terms of development and resources unable to ramp up their vaccination program thus far?

Maybe it's not quite so straightforward as you suggest?

 

[Ajax Bay]

This shows how the various parts of England have done (provenance of data unstated and as at 17 Jan):

Worth noting that, like the other COVID-19 reporting, there is a weekly cycle of vaccinations delivered, so the 7-day rolling average will start being a more useful metric, now that we've got to well over 2M a week and, I sense, stabilising.