COVID Vaccine !
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Poacher
Gravitationally challenged member
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Delight at the news may be slightly tempered by the photo on several front pages of a little bottle,with a label showing "For intramsucular use only."
Not much attention to detail there. Was it a rushed job with insufficient checks?
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
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- Northumberland
Don't rely on the accuracy of PR photos!
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kingrollo
Guru
What You mean your GP might not answer the phone as quickly ?
Maybe I'm being unduly negative but does anyone else see problems in the supply chain and administering the injection?
I heard this vaccine has a short life and needs storing at -80 c. What could possibly go wrong given this governments past failures.
I'm just hoping my fears are unfounded.
I heard this vaccine has a short life and needs storing at -80 c. What could possibly go wrong given this governments past failures.
I'm just hoping my fears are unfounded.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Maybe I'm being unduly negative but does anyone else see problems in the supply chain and administering the injection?
I heard this vaccine has a short life and needs storing at -80 c. What could possibly go wrong given this governments past failures.
I'm just hoping my fears are unfounded.
These are very real issues.
vickster
Legendary Member
Presumably for every country in the world if it's different to the normal process for transporting and storing vaccines?
I'm sure the challenges of implementing this are the same. The worry for me is the govt will again give it to a private contractor with no experience. They have rather a history of this.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
I'm not an expert in vaccine logistics, but every vaccine will have its own requirements depending on the specifics. Obviously ambient storage is best, then refrigerated, then frozen, and this ultra frozen is worst. I think most vaccines only require refrigeration, but I could be wrong. Obviously this will be a huge challenge for remote populations - and doubly so because two doses are required.
In short, I would guess this is only tenable for 1st world or urban populations.
ikdo01
Veteran
- Location
- Europe (mostly)
Wendover made a good video explaining the problems with the logistics and supply chain of the vaccine a few months ago
I've just watched this and it's done nothing to give me hope with government handling this well.
Thinking about the logistics being in place I don't think it very likely we'll have a 'World Beating' system.
It's a total nightmare from end to end which is getting glossed over. Normally anything needing this sort of requirement the MHRA would normally only allow to be used in hospital settings. Now with law changes that will be push to one side. Your right vaccines are normally kept in a fridge and only last for a given time out of it. Normal medicine management of fridges is bad enough but trying to keep sub zero one clinical viable is way of the scale. No GP practice has medicine fridge that go's that low. So they better have plenty on order which I doubt. Given that the scale of this vaccine program add in covid safe element and you have a right old problem. Running mass vaccine centres on hours Handcock is going on about makes it even harder. You simply won't be able to get though each jab quick enough. The idea of mass numbers of untrained / inexperienced vaccine givers using this sort of vaccine is alarming. It's a clinical governance nightmare.
That's before you can guarantee the supply of dry ice you're going to need.
A poor country solution this one is not as is the idea that this will an "NHS" lead vaccine program. It will be jobs for the boys all round just look at the vaccine task force and not forgetting "NHS" T&T
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You sound just right Serco all be happy to sign you up for the subcontract.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Sorry, due diligence check required.
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