Covid App: Yay or Nay

[BoldonLad]

Nay, I had it in March and I don't want to be self-isolating when I am almost certainly immune (for now). The app also has stupid flaws like leaving you checked into venues until midnight of the same day unless you check out or check in somewhere else (so you could be forced to isolate if you went to McD's for breakfast and a late-night drunk, who later tested positive, popped in for a burger 18 hours later).

Oh, and I wouldn't trust Dido Harding to run a bath.

Excellent point

 

[gavgav]

Yay, because even if it only has a 1% chance of improving the fight against this virus, then it’s worth it

 

[PaulSB]

why is it depressing?

There's a lot more to beating C19 than downloading a phone app... I'd much rather folk just kept sanitising their hands when they're out and about.

At the point I made my remark the bulk of posts came up with reasons not to use it. I feel shortened battery life takes the biscuit.........what else is shortening life at present?

I'm in complete agreement with you that there are so many other things we can all do. I watch people when I'm out and about and despair at the apparent lack of awareness some people display.

For me the app is something we have been asked to use. Other than having to scan in to cafes, 30 seconds?, it has no impact on my daily life. I've been doing the C-19 app for perhaps six months now. I feel if any action I can take or am asked to take improves our chances of controlling this virus I should do it.

 

[rogerzilla]

I think masks have made things worse; there is no longer any social distancing in shops as people feel protected by them. They literally brush past you in Sainsbury's now, when a few months ago they'd have been doing a little dance to keep clear.

I only shop for essentials (supermarket) and wouldn't dream of going in a pub or restaurant. It's more a fear of being made to self-isolate than a fear of the virus. I was well-exposed to it when SO got really ill (3 nights in hospital on oxygen) and had the dry cough for 12 hours, but it went no further. We pinned it down to a Waitrose visit...three of us got symptoms five days later, the daughter that wasn't there didn't. You get a better class of 'rona in Waitrose.

 

[raleighnut]

I think masks have made things worse; there is no longer any social distancing in shops as people feel protected by them. They literally brush past you in Sainsbury's now, when a few months ago they'd have been doing a little dance to keep clear.

I only shop for essentials (supermarket) and wouldn't dream of going in a pub or restaurant. It's more a fear of being made to self-isolate than a fear of the virus. I was well-exposed to it when SO got really ill (3 nights in hospital on oxygen) and had the dry cough for 12 hours, but it went no further. We pinned it down to a Waitrose visit...three of us got symptoms five days later, the daughter that wasn't there didn't. You get a better class of 'rona in Waitrose.

That's despite the repeated messages that face coverings are to safeguard others not the wearer much the same as surgeons wear masks during operations not to protect themselves but to help prevent infection
On another thread someone* is propounding the idea that people are more intelligent now than they were, I disagree, if they can't even take on board this simple idea then they're either stupid or incredibly selfish

* I think I can remember who but cannot be arsed to go looking for the post to confirm and don't want to mention them if it is whom I think it is.

 

[Reynard]

Going by my (admittedly) infrequent and limited observations, people in this neck of the woods seem to be mostly comporting themselves somewhat better than average. Maybe that's why East Cambridgeshire has the fourth lowest infection rate in the country...

But even here, the odd numpty surfaceth...

And then there are the numpties in the cat fancy who have a show going ahead in Maidstone in a couple of weeks' time.

 

[slowmotion]

Nay. It won't work on a DumbPhone.

 

[srw]

Your phone has that random id as a contact.

And somewhere in the system is a mechanism for the random IDs to be linked back to real people, otherwise the messages "I've tested positive" and "you've been in contact with someone who has tested positive" can't get through. So at some point they need personal data. They might ask for permission at the stage of needing, which is a bit late.

The whole idea of a Scottish app and a different English app is a a nonsense. There should be a single global app.

 

[gaijintendo]

And somewhere in the system is a mechanism for the random IDs to be linked back to real people, otherwise the messages "I've tested positive" and "you've been in contact with someone who has tested positive" can't get through. So at some point they need personal data. They might ask for permission at the stage of needing, which is a bit late.

The whole idea of a Scottish app and a different English app is a a nonsense. There should be a single global app.

The concept is, you tell other people a number and they remember having read that number. Which isn't personal information... And that's the idea behind the common app.

Once you add locations, and check-ins, and your postcode, you become identifiable fairly quickly. They (whoever contacted to) will try to milk this data for all it's worth, after all it is costing them many millions. It is for you to trust the data handling rules won't be broken in any limited or specific ways. Once you accept that, you can benefits from the system.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

And somewhere in the system is a mechanism for the random IDs to be linked back to real people, otherwise the messages "I've tested positive" and "you've been in contact with someone who has tested positive" can't get through. So at some point they need personal data. They might ask for permission at the stage of needing, which is a bit late.

The whole idea of a Scottish app and a different English app is a a nonsense. There should be a single global app.

Nope not true. The random id is the only thing they see centrally. There’s no need to link to personal data. That’s the whole point of this version of the app. When it says you’ve been in contact, centrally they have no idea who you are.

 

[Kryton521]

Nay.

I'm of the view that we really need to accept the "herd" immunity theory. Yes a lot of people will die. But I don't see a viable vaccine in the near, [two to three years] being available.

 

[Archie_tect]

I would say Yay on principle that anything's better than nothing... but I got an alert yesterday to say I'd been in contact with one person who's tested +ve with Covd- 19 at 12:15... I was driving at the time so can only imagine that I'd been sitting at traffic lights or something similar when someone walked past the car! So it would be impossible to catch it - yet do I now have to self-isolate? Not clear from the app what I'm supposed to do.

 

[marinyork]

I would say Yay on principle that anything's better than nothing... but I got an alert yesterday to say I'd been in contact with one person who's tested +ve with Covd- 19 at 12:15... I was driving at the time so can only imagine that I'd been sitting at traffic lights or something similar when someone walked past the car! So it would be impossible to catch it - yet do I now have to self-isolate? Not clear from the app what I'm supposed to do.

If you are supposed to self isolate it tells you.

 

[Leedsbusdriver]

I have it on my phone. But when I'm driving I can't have my phone on, so it's a bit useless when I'm working and in close proximity to a lot of potentially infected people. Though I do switch it back on when I'm not driving.

 

[raleighnut]

I would say Yay on principle that anything's better than nothing... but I got an alert yesterday to say I'd been in contact with one person who's tested +ve with Covd- 19 at 12:15... I was driving at the time so can only imagine that I'd been sitting at traffic lights or something similar when someone walked past the car! So it would be impossible to catch it - yet do I now have to self-isolate? Not clear from the app what I'm supposed to do.

i'd posted earlier how I thought that could potentially happen, as far as I know there's no way to cancel that alert.