johnblack
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Interesting data that shows current infections cases by country. Actually looks like we've gone in to lockdown at a much lower rate of infection than some of our neighbours.
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Interesting data that shows current infections cases by country. Actually looks like we've gone in to lockdown at a much lower rate of infection than some of our neighbours.
mjr
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Key words there are "looks like" in your comment and "The number of confirmed cases is lower than the number of actual cases: the main reason for that is limited testing" in the graph. We know England's outsourced-to-friends TTT has repeatedly been in shambles and maxed out repeatedly , but from the top of that graph, Belgium has taken a lot of stick for its widespread testing and cautious-bordering-on-overestimate reporting but it has been testing (the worst I've seen are some grumbles about too few test centres in Liege and a decision last week to temporarily stop testing asymptomatic people), I don't know about Czechia or Luxembourg, Slovenia built its testing capacity early and France has had its problems but the president intervened several times to get it back on track.
Also, that graph is only up to today and we've not gone into lockdown yet. Johnson hasn't had enough of dither, delay and death, so he wants to wait for Guy Fawkes Night for some reason. Hopefully social distancing won't stop them checking the basements!
johnblack
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mjr
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plus we've another three days yet of eejits having pre lockdown parties to aid transmission, but basically yes. Do you think the UK testing system has worked smoothly?
johnblack
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There seems to be a lot of testing. Test and trace seems to be a bit of a failure, mind you I think Angela Merkel confirmed just the other day that it isn't working in Germany and it hasn't worked in France either. So I think most countries are probably in the same boat, the UK has the same problems that a lot of other countries are having and the same conversations are probably being had on CycleChat.NL or CycleChat.FR, and most people have no answer as to how this ends because there isn't one yet.
All uphill
Still rolling along
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News from the BBC that Prince William had the virus in April, but the royals didnt tell us to "avoid alarming the nation".
Thank goodness! I wouldn't have slept for worrying about someone I've never met, never will meet and is part of an institution I despise.
Thank goodness! I wouldn't have slept for worrying about someone I've never met, never will meet and is part of an institution I despise.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Or perhaps "to avoid being prosecuted for traveling with Covid symptoms". Though his father got away with it.
mjr
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If you think that Germany or France has suffered the same scale, scope and frequency of testing failures as the UK, then you need to look at where you're getting your news from! Maybe balance the diet of BBC and Sky misguided patriotism with France24 and DW, or try the Irish press?
No, we don't know how it'll end, anywhere, but that doesn't mean we have to ignore the donkeyisms.
johnblack
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I think it was DW that reported it the other day, Merkel confirmed that they are no longer able to trace where 75% of infections come from. It was the Guardian reporting that the French app had only been downloaded 3m times in comparison to 12m in the UK.
I have no idea what donkeyisms are, I guess some kind of political thing. I don't think politics should pay any part in the conversation.
johnblack
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The Germans are hitting about 25%, but they are awesome. As I said previously, no one comes out of this particularly well, it's not about politics.
He's not waited so fair.
Do we only use other parts of Europe as a measure of how good / bad we at dealing with this?
Other countries have had the same issues but are not well on the way to moving on to the next stage of this and living without active covid and again are case free. But on the alert to deal with any outbreaks quickly and effectively.
johnblack
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No but it's just easier and I'd think a pretty good yardstick.
We could compare ourselves against all sorts of countries to prove a point one way or the other, but I'm not sure that achieves much.
Why not ? It back's the facts that all effective measures always come down to the same things. None of which we have got a grip of and don't look like ripping any time soon.
