Coronavirus outbreak

[kingrollo]

After 10+ years "work in progress" and, not finished .... hmmm

I did at one stage know the chap in charge, cannot recall his surname now, Bernard something, I think

As you probably know then - the national programme for IT was to implement a series a national systems. The first stage was to equip all the hospital's with compatible systems - this was pretty much done (seriously many hospitals were no windows green screen terminals)- the next stage was to link them all up - that's when the axe fell.

Shortly after this the hospital I work at decided to design its own system - which took 4 years - so 10 years to get all the hospitals on compatible systems , with hindsight - doesn't look too bad.

 

[kingrollo]

It's seasonal (I did not move virus patients from early June until very recently) there was an up and now there is a down, there''ll be another up in later winter as there always is, then there'll be another down. But by far the largest % of deaths will be from care homes and hospital acquired infections......so how would a societal circuit breaker reduce these deaths?

Funny I heard most transmissions were in family homes. One person brings it in - then the whole household gets it.

 

[IaninSheffield]

But by far the largest % of deaths will be from care homes and hospital acquired infections......so how would a societal circuit breaker reduce these deaths?

Well, those who work in care homes are members of society, so breaking societal chains of infection ought to reduce transmission rates in the homes surely?

 

[marinyork]

Fascinating

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/half-slovakia-population-covid-tested-covid-one-day

TL;DR Slovakia a tiny country of 5.5 million tests half the population in a single day. 25,000 people test positive. Around what the UK has with a population of 66 million!!!

Interesting as I wonder if the UK's positives are really at around 100,000 a day as the upper range of what the Whitty and the Vallance said yesterday.

 

[classic33]

Indeed. Sympathy to those suffering but I feel this goes back far longer than covid. "Localism" has turned out to be mainly a successful rebranded "postcode lottery". Before complaining, remember this was the will of the people

If this was happening before this started, "postcode lottery" then perhaps you can explain how three different health trusts made the same decision. Different treatments for different conditions.

Two stopped, one will mean starting from scratch, another means they don't know the cause but have left me wondering what next.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

German government have now advised everyone to stock up on sausages and cheese as they head into lockdown. This is referred to as the Wurst Käse scenario.

 

[tom73]

Fascinating

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/half-slovakia-population-covid-tested-covid-one-day

TL;DR Slovakia a tiny country of 5.5 million tests half the population in a single day. 25,000 people test positive. Around what the UK has with a population of 66 million!!!

Interesting as I wonder if the UK's positives are really at around 100,000 a day as the upper range of what the Whitty and the Vallance said yesterday.

Never mind the failings of our testing the best we can still do is lob a test kit though a car window and expect some poor sod. Who may not be feeling great to one, read some instructions and two, manage to somehow stick a swab in the right place. To give a sample good enough to test but yet Slovakia and many others with no way the money as use. Can not only test on mass but have someone to do them. Even in people's homes. For mass testing to work we've got to look at the whole thing end to end and make it accessible to all turning away disabled people is not on , in placers that are easy to reach door to door would be even better. The capacity needed to do this can't be done with the current logistics. Looking past the army as nothing more a mass logistics company but as mass physical testers is long over due.

 

[Mr Celine]

It's seasonal (I did not move virus patients from early June until very recently) there was an up and now there is a down, there''ll be another up in later winter as there always is, then there'll be another down. But by far the largest % of deaths will be from care homes and hospital acquired infections......so how would a societal circuit breaker reduce these deaths?

Visits to care homes stopped. Pubs shut and no indoor mixing means less likliehood of staff catching the virus in the community and bringing it into care homes or hospitals.

 

[marinyork]

Visits to care homes stopped. Pubs shut and no indoor mixing means less likliehood of staff catching the virus in the community and bringing it into care homes or hospitals.

In England the government were talking of banning people working in more than one home. I don't know whether anything came of this suggestion.

 

[BoldonLad]

Visits to care homes stopped. Pubs shut and no indoor mixing means less likliehood of staff catching the virus in the community and bringing it into care homes or hospitals.

That is, of course, assuming people (including staff) follow the rules.

plus of course, not all care staff work in care homes, or, hospitals..... some even work in more than one place.

 

[BoldonLad]

In England the government were talking of banning people working in more than one home. I don't know whether anything came of this suggestion.

Not aware that this actually happened (officially), I do know that at least one company rearranged shifts to minimise staff/client contacts. But, of course, many care staff work for more than one employer.

 

[Mr Celine]

Our local authority in house care teams have been banned from working for any other employer. This is causing problems for staff who have now lost a large part of their income and also other private care homes which have lost a large part of their staff.
Despite this there has been a local cluster which started last week, linked to the LA care team.

 

[tom73]

In England the government were talking of banning people working in more than one home. I don't know whether anything came of this suggestion.

I'm not sure either not much has been said since. They did give LA's money to allow care home's to employ them on enough hours to not need to work in more then one. That was part of the PPE funding which is ending talk was that getting extended. Not sure it has yet or if it's enough.

 

[classic33]

Not aware that this actually happened (officially), I do know that at least one company rearranged shifts to minimise staff/client contacts. But, of course, many care staff work for more than one employer.

Some have allowed extra time for those carers going to more than one house.

 

[Julia9054]

Not aware that this actually happened (officially), I do know that at least one company rearranged shifts to minimise staff/client contacts. But, of course, many care staff work for more than one employer.

Some care staff don't actually work in residential homes but provide care in the client's own home. They are visiting several different premises a day