Coronavirus outbreak

[midlife]

Nipped out to get some more decking screws, roads very busy with queue around the block at B & Q. I wonder if there's going to be a mad rush to buy loo roll, pasta, rice, flour at the supermarkets again?

 

[oldwheels]

Yes, myself and Mrs @BoldonLad needed blood tests. Our GP Surgery gave us a telephone number to call, to make an appointment. That was three weeks ago. We have phoned the number, several times per day, for the past three weeks. No answer. No-one at GP surgery has queried why no tests done (so much for the multi billion. Pound IT system). Several of my pals are having same experience.

Don't seem to be any problems in the part of Scotland where I live. Appointment made no problem and going on Tuesday for bloods and B12.

 

[BoldonLad]

Don't seem to be any problems in the part of Scotland where I live. Appointment made no problem and going on Tuesday for bloods and B12.

Mrs @BoldonLad managed to get her B12 injection, it "only" took four telephone calls to the GP surgery to arrange an appointment.

 

[Mr Celine]

Nicola always trumps Boris, so, I suspect Scotland will be having double lock down, for eight weeks.

She follows the science and expert recommendations, which were for a 'circuit breaker' four weeks ago.
Early days yet, but seems to be having an effect on the rolling 7 day average.
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[kingrollo]

Political bias aside..is there any scientific evidence (either way) that the 15 minute covid tests exist or don't exist ?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Political bias aside..is there any scientific evidence (either way) that the 15 minute covid tests exist or don't exist ?

Review here.

Short version: Yes, but limited understanding of accuracy and utility.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3868

 

[classic33]

Well, not exactly.
From 'NEXT STEPS ON NHS RESPONSE TO COVID-19' issued by CE & COO of NHS England on 17th March.
"Assume that you will need to postpone all non-urgent elective operations from
15th April at the latest, for a period of at least three months. ... Emergency
admissions, cancer treatment and other clinically urgent care should continue
unaffected. In the interim, providers should continue to use all available
capacity for elective operations including the independent sector, before
COVID constraints curtail such work."
Though the experience of individuals in different parts of the country may of course not reflect that intent.

Pity that never happened. Leaving people to fend for themselves.

All mine were stopped when this kicked off. And still waiting to see if they'll restart.

Another letter, from another specialist, saying that due to the current conditions, any further treatment will have to be via my GP. That ends all hospital treatment for the foreseeable future.

I can't even get an appointment with the GP. Next hospital visit may well be an A&E department. Not by choice either.

I'm getting a bit cynical now and wondering if the current situation is being used to get rid of some on waiting lists, thereby making them shorter. A third annual review being the one cancelled today.

I can't be the only one in this situation. But what about the knock on effect of not being treated, it's simply left snowballing.

 

[classic33]

Dr Clare Craig has discovered a lot of anomolies in testing procedures/results and believes we have a testing problem, no longer an epidemic.

https://logicinthetimeofcovid.com/blog/

https://lockdownsceptics.org/how-covid-deaths-are-over-counted/

I include this graph to provide perspective when confronted with hysterical recent headlines like "4000 deaths per day", it is plainly cobblers, about 1600 die every day from ALL causes.

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Is a Naturopathic Physician a proper doctor though?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

As you know I am one of the least authoritarian people around but I reckon some boots on necks is the only way to sort this out.
(If my neck gets stood on feel free to post this comment on the leopardsatemyface subreddit)

Quite. Take this one - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-54769055

Officers who were called to Yate at around 22:30 GMT on Saturday said up to 700 people were in attendance.
Some of the crowd began acting violently towards officers as they were told to leave, Avon and Somerset Police said.

Arrest every single one of them.

 

[fossyant]

Nipped out to get some more decking screws, roads very busy with queue around the block at B & Q. I wonder if there's going to be a mad rush to buy loo roll, pasta, rice, flour at the supermarkets again?

Mad rush for decking !!! Took ages to sort out our friends decking for her. Long wait for timber.

 

[mjr]

When someone can show me the legitimacy of stopping overnight stays in second homes and the closure of golf courses and how they effect infection rates in comparison to workplaces, schools and colleges then I will stand the drop. No doubt these two will be the last restrictions lifted (again) after all other money generating venues have opened regardless of their effect on infection rates!

Who on here cares about golfists? The limit of cycling group rides to just 2 is really rather bizarre given no cases reported linked to cycling and I suspect it is based on the fear there will be daffodils going "it's a bit parky - let's go in and chat" which they didn't do so much in April/May.

 

[BoldonLad]

Political bias aside..is there any scientific evidence (either way) that the 15 minute covid tests exist or don't exist ?

I cannot double check this, at the moment, since my son is currently "in transit" to an offshore installation, but, my son has been working on various offshore support vessels / offshore installations over the past few months, and, has had a covid test before joining, and when leaving each ship/installation. Since there was not a two day delay at each movement, I assume it was some form of "on the spot answer" test. I will double check with him when it is possible to contact him again.

 

[marinyork]

Political bias aside..is there any scientific evidence (either way) that the 15 minute covid tests exist or don't exist ?

They exist. They are used in other countries.

In the UK they exist as roubaix has said, but there are further larger and larger 'trials'.

Even if they get rolled out, some of the local public health heads may stick two fingers up at the population and say we don't want them, as seems to be the case reported from the newspapers days ago. The head of public health where I live spoke to a newspaper and made a series of unfortunate comments that made him sound like a right numpty not fit to be in the post.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Yes, myself and Mrs @BoldonLad needed blood tests. Our GP Surgery gave us a telephone number to call, to make an appointment. That was three weeks ago. We have phoned the number, several times per day, for the past three weeks. No answer. No-one at GP surgery has queried why no tests done (so much for the multi billion. Pound IT system). Several of my pals are having same experience.

Can you get your GP to book you in for blood tests at your local hospital pathology department? My GP had a 6 week waiting list for blood work but said if I didn’t mind going to the hospital, they could do it the following week. I got my bloods done three days later.

 

[mjr]

Can you get your GP to book you in for blood tests at your local hospital pathology department? My GP had a 6 week waiting list for blood work but said if I didn’t mind going to the hospital, they could do it the following week. I got my bloods done three days later.

I only had to book in if I want bloods drawn at the village surgery. I used to be able to walk in to the phlebotomy area at the hospital with blood forms in hand and have it collected within 10 minutes. I suspect I'd be asked to go for a walk in the grounds and return at a given time now, but I've not heard of booking being needed even during lockdown. For obvious reasons, I preferred not to travel to the town hospital for it this year.

If anywhere has worse services, it may not be entirely covid-caused...