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tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Predictions:

1. We're in the shoot. But we won't say why.
2. Don't want to do anything, against all instincts yadayadayada.
3. Must save Christmas. Faux Churchillian or Latin phrase to accompany.
4. Locking down nationally. But called something else - tier 4 super local or somesuch bollix. Clear plan on exiting conspicuous by its absence.
5. Unrealistic promises (over by X, moonshot, whatever)
6. Failure of and plan to sort test n trace not mentioned.
7. Johnson gets something factually wrong in questions. No. 10 twitter later insists he was right whilst correcting.

Missed one when Whitty or Vallance give a scientific reply to a question. Borris will be nodding and saying yes or that's right. Trying to make out he understands it. Not forgetting trotting out the stay alert message to what , or who or how is anyones guess.
Maybe he will do a Jobs and a "one other thing" moment and give everyone over 100 a free Christmas hamper.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Kit Yates, modeller on independent Sage nails it:


View: https://twitter.com/Kit_Yates_Maths/status/1322545002711601158
 

BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
Everyone is fed up, that's no excuse for no obeying the rules.
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It doesn't help there have been too many high profile cases of the 'elite', those who set the rules, exempting themselves from obeying them. That's been an unmitigated disaster.

Indeed, including, if memory serves me correctly, the originator some of the scare tactics, who had to slip out (or, should that be in?), to see his friend.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
scare tactics

How is predicting hundreds of thousands of deaths unless we take action a "scare tactic"?

On the contrary, it seems close to a "proven fact" given that we're already up to 60,000 despite unprecedented measures to suppress, and just at the start of ac second wave.
 

BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
What ever comes will be one too late, two not effective enough, three too quickly unlocked, four with ineffective interventions to keep cases down. But above all add yet more numbers of deaths and long term social damage which is covid. You can rebuild an economy but you can't bring people back or give them the health back they once had. The current government fudge is not working it's time to get real other western democracies have shown it can be done. They are not having to lock down but are now fully reopen and enjoying life in the new post covid "normal"

Could you name them please? AFAIK, there are none.
 

BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
How is predicting hundreds of thousands of deaths unless we take action a "scare tactic"?

On the contrary, it seems close to a "proven fact" given that we're already up to 60,000 despite unprecedented measures to suppress, and just at the start of ac second wave.

No. We have approximately 60,000 deaths where the deceased tested positive for Covid within 28 days of death, that is not the same thing as dying OF Covid. We are all going to die sooner or later.

As for the "unprecedented measures"... the rules have not been adhered to, for whatever reason, if the rules are not going to be enforced, what is the point in having them? Without something approaching martial law, it is very difficult to see how the rules could be enforced IMHO.
 
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