roadrash
cycle chatterer
- Location
- sitting on the edge of wigan pier
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Bigger issues than the governments handling of this boy we sure have. I don't care which clowns are running the show and I don't think others would have done better. What I can't stick is they've given up even trying , a wife who like many is now well past running on empty will she and the rest keep going? Yes it's what they do but at what cost ? We happily walked into this mess and we are going all over again. I'd happily have confidence in the current government and be happy bunny. But it's hard to do when even the countries most senior HCP's and scientists are openly critical of them.
We can't even begin to deal the real post covid issues if the health of the nation is decimated. Government long list of balls up's are only part of why it's been a mess. Imbedded, historic and endemic inequalities have all played into the hands of covid. I spend much of time dealing with them. So sorry if I'm seen to join the "it's easy to bash government bandwagon" but i'm tried of fire fighting. If at a time of the biggest public health emergency to date we as nation which any government is part of. Can't even keep the most vulnerable part's of society safe. We've no hope of ever doing it have we ?
So until a vaccine is found and even then until it's been handed out to enough people. It's not going to go back to normal anytime soon in turn until we get a real handle on managing this. Which only the government can do other governments have and all have a few things in common. Effective testing, tracing and clear public health message not only on the what to do but methods of transmission so everyone can make a simple judgment on what's safe for them. We don't have any of that what's happened has gone and can't be put back. But we can learn and get better that looking way off. The economy will not begin to recover for some time even if we changed tack now and more interventions will be needed. We may as well start to rebalance it now much of it is shot anyway.The question is what and how ? Once you start digging things are complex economy and health are linked make a balls up of one the other will quickly bite your balls off.
We can't even begin to deal the real post covid issues if the health of the nation is decimated. Government long list of balls up's are only part of why it's been a mess. Imbedded, historic and endemic inequalities have all played into the hands of covid. I spend much of time dealing with them. So sorry if I'm seen to join the "it's easy to bash government bandwagon" but i'm tried of fire fighting. If at a time of the biggest public health emergency to date we as nation which any government is part of. Can't even keep the most vulnerable part's of society safe. We've no hope of ever doing it have we ?
So until a vaccine is found and even then until it's been handed out to enough people. It's not going to go back to normal anytime soon in turn until we get a real handle on managing this. Which only the government can do other governments have and all have a few things in common. Effective testing, tracing and clear public health message not only on the what to do but methods of transmission so everyone can make a simple judgment on what's safe for them. We don't have any of that what's happened has gone and can't be put back. But we can learn and get better that looking way off. The economy will not begin to recover for some time even if we changed tack now and more interventions will be needed. We may as well start to rebalance it now much of it is shot anyway.The question is what and how ? Once you start digging things are complex economy and health are linked make a balls up of one the other will quickly bite your balls off.
Tanis8472
Guru
That would mean they would have had to have already thought it through, you know, like most rational people do.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
They're both happening now, in case you hadn't noticed. They "compete" for news coverage.
Not democratic, but there's another thread for that.
oldfatfool
Guru
I haven't t worked out yet why if ferry x left port at 00.00 and stuck to it normal efficient cruising speed docking in the UK at 1.30am everyone would have to be in quarentine but if same ferry left at 00.00 burned excesses amount of diesel to be docked at 00.59am everyone on board would be A OK. Can only presume they handed out highviz vests to counteract the danger.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Johnson now bullshitting about "moonshots" whilst not being able to deliver basic testing provision 6 months into the pandemic.
Encapsulates the triumph of rhetoric over delivery.
Encapsulates the triumph of rhetoric over delivery.
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
I think we can all cancel the big family Christmas and New Year celebrations.
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
The world beating track and trace app hasn’t arrived yet either.
raleighnut
Legendary Member
- Location
- One of the 'Elite'
I sincerely hope so
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
I do think the rule of 6 is far easier to understand for the general population.
It’s a simple concept, whether anyone will abide by it is unknown.
It’s a simple concept, whether anyone will abide by it is unknown.
Julia9054
Guru
- Location
- Knaresborough
Phew (oops - I typed that out loud!)
