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classic33

Leg End Member
I see it all the time in wigan...im alright jack , i will do whatever i want, it really boils my piss , if your actions only affected you then fair enough but they dont .

i really dont understand this wear a mask in the shop , but the people working in the shop doesnt need one, why not , are we as customers supposed to magically believe they could not possibly be infected, to hi-light this point , suppose i work in a shop, i dont need to wear a mask, if i nip into the shop next door i need to wear one, does the virus know if i am a customer or worker, to be honest all the guidlines or rules are a total mess, i will continue to wear a mask outside of my house and limit contact with others not from my household, the guidlines are confusing bolox ,
message to boris....dont advise/ask people to do something , it just doesnt work.
Encountered this the other way round today. The shop assistant was partially deaf, behind a plastic screen, and having trouble seeing what people were saying. This down to mask wearing customers.
I've come across the problem the other way round, customer having problems seeing what the assistant was saying.

She was however at work, on the shop floor, not the warehouse where she usually worked packing orders.
 
Encountered this the other way round today. The shop assistant was partially deaf, behind a plastic screen, and having trouble seeing what people were saying. This down to mask wearing customers.
I've come across the problem the other way round, customer having problems seeing what the assistant was saying.

She was however at work, on the shop floor, not the warehouse where she usually worked packing orders.

must be horrible for people who rely on lip reading
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
The testing system seems to be a bit of a mess. Somebody near Oban told to go to Fort William tho' they got a test eventually in Oban no problem. Some in southern England being told to go to Inverness and in some cases Northern Ireland. The computer system just seems to pick a testing station at random with no attention to geography.
Hancock say's it now fixed and as a 75 mile limit in place now. What not clear is if they use map distance or as crow fly's.
Using government publish real test example of distance traveled the BBC had a look. It look's to be latter though the DHSC won't confirm it
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
[sigh]

The virus takes time - variable from case to case - to incubate.

So testing does not help. Only isolation.

Testing does help, it's just when. It'll pick up 7% of cases on day zero. However the system assumes that the virus flowed the other way from the positive test to the others. If it flowed the other way it'll pick up more than 7% of cases. Many civilised countries test 2nd nodes and do so more than once. We test 2nd nodes here, just on an ad hoc basis when a local outbreak scares the shoot out of people.

Testing also gives authorities extra info to go on. It also enforces confidence in the system which is absolutely crucial. Without confidence less will isolate.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Testing does help, it's just when. It'll pick up 7% of cases on day zero. However the system assumes that the virus flowed the other way from the positive test to the others. If it flowed the other way it'll pick up more than 7% of cases. Many civilised countries test 2nd nodes and do so more than once. We test 2nd nodes here, just on an ad hoc basis when a local outbreak scares the shoot out of people.

Testing also gives authorities extra info to go on. It also enforces confidence in the system which is absolutely crucial. Without confidence less will isolate.

You'd think the penny would have dropped by now Hancock and co bang on about how testing is so important but still have no idea how to make it work and what you need to do with the data. It would be interesting to know the the true infection numbers had it worked from day one. Confidence is key sadly it's been lacking from the start. The behaviour advisory group of SAGE has been highlighting the need for the govermant to start rebuilding trust. Not just in testing but the whole covid response. The recent don't kill your granny won't have helped the rebuild. If they ever do get round to a rebuild that is
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
BBC announcing that the legal limit for gatherings anywhere will be cut to 6 from Monday but there will be exemption for some sports (who knows if cycling is one or not) and Boris will announce the details tomorrow (once Dom has told him?)

So will this affect cinemas, football games, pubs, restaurants... Or does paying still protect against coronavirus?
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
BBC announcing that the legal limit for gatherings anywhere will be cut to 6 from Monday but there will be exemption for some sports (who knows if cycling is one or not) and Boris will announce the details tomorrow (once Dom has told him?)

So will this affect cinemas, football games, pubs, restaurants... Or does paying still protect against coronavirus?
What's the deal on schools? Classes with only 5 pupils and a teacher?
 

Adam4868

Legendary Member
They are exemption for covering that includes workplaces, sports , covid secure weddings and funerals full list tomorrow
10 of you going to the pub,6 at one table 4 at another ? Pubs/resteraunts still packed but only with tables of six...It's not really going to work now I don't think.Theres been so many mixed messages and confusion that most are going to think feck it,I'll do what I want.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
10 of you going to the pub,6 at one table 4 at another ? Pubs/resteraunts still packed but only with tables of six...It's not really going to work now I don't think.Theres been so many mixed messages and confusion that most are going to think feck it,I'll do what I want.
Just a new set of areas of grey like every thing else.
 
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