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SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
@SkipdiverJohn views will soon be mainstream accepted. Then the ostrich brigade will have to come out and boy is that going to be painfiul.

All the pro-lockdown zealots that want to put normal life on hold indefinitely are strangely silent about the fact that hospitalisations and deaths from the virus are stubbornly staying low, despite all the media hysteria about the fact that more cases are being detected.
Even if you look at the country with the highest numbers, the USA, the picture is the same. Early on they were getting 30k cases a day and 2k deaths, now after the second wave it's flattened off at around 40k cases a day and less than 1k deaths. The mortality rate has more than halved, and to anyone without other underlying medical issues, the risk of death from the virus is negligible..
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
All the pro-lockdown zealots that want to put normal life on hold indefinitely are strangely silent about the fact that hospitalisations and deaths from the virus are stubbornly staying low, despite all the media hysteria about the fact that more cases are being detected.
Even if you look at the country with the highest numbers, the USA, the picture is the same. Early on they were getting 30k cases a day and 2k deaths, now after the second wave it's flattened off at around 40k cases a day and less than 1k deaths. The mortality rate has more than halved, and to anyone without other underlying medical issues, the risk of death from the virus is negligible..
Because the most viulnerable are staying inside or keeping their distance. It's the young who are catching it now. When they get it, they largely don't need hospitalising. Note the figures for the high numbers of workers staying at home still.
 

DCLane

Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
My local Co-op's not checking anyone or asking them to wear a face covering - not since they've got screens up. They don't wear them either.

Over in Knowsley today for a velodrome session and the store nearby had about 30% of people wearing them, with the staff not doing so.

I'm guessing complacency has set in.

On the other hand in the track session we were health checked before entry plus screening. No face coverings worn for the session but kept in a small enough bubble; well under the BC guidelines. Nice track too.
 
All the pro-lockdown zealots that want to put normal life on hold indefinitely are strangely silent about the fact that hospitalisations and deaths from the virus are stubbornly staying low, despite all the media hysteria about the fact that more cases are being detected.
Even if you look at the country with the highest numbers, the USA, the picture is the same. Early on they were getting 30k cases a day and 2k deaths, now after the second wave it's flattened off at around 40k cases a day and less than 1k deaths. The mortality rate has more than halved, and to anyone without other underlying medical issues, the risk of death from the virus is negligible..

And I take it such an alpha male as yourself has no underlying health conditions ?
 
@SkipdiverJohn views will soon be mainstream accepted. Then the ostrich brigade will have to come out and boy is that going to be painfiul.

Lol - from the guy who told in January that this was a load of fuss about nothing.

Tell ya what Id pay good money to see 12 rounds of skipdiverjohn v Markf - all that manly testosterone knocking about !
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
All the pro-lockdown zealots that want to put normal life on hold indefinitely are strangely silent about the fact that hospitalisations and deaths from the virus are stubbornly staying low, despite all the media hysteria about the fact that more cases are being detected.
Even if you look at the country with the highest numbers, the USA, the picture is the same. Early on they were getting 30k cases a day and 2k deaths, now after the second wave it's flattened off at around 40k cases a day and less than 1k deaths. The mortality rate has more than halved, and to anyone without other underlying medical issues, the risk of death from the virus is negligible..

It's political, there can be no other reason.

We've never in history sought out perfectly healthy people from which to produce highly "spurious" cases from which don't correlate into deaths nor even hospital admissions, nor even poorly people. There is no point to this except to fuel the fear narrative. Whilst right now, other respiratory viruses that we don't hide from, kill 30-50x more. It was a seasonal virus and we were led by weak leaders who blinked whilst others stayed sane and it's being proved the world over. Lockdowns didn't do anything to stop the spread and lifiting restrictions didn't accelerate it. "Second wave" should go the same way as "novel", "lethal", "spike", "asympomatic tranmission" and all the other guff that has had people bedwetting for months. Sweden......USA........all gone quiet......

There is nothing to stop us going back to normal tomorrow morning, and if we did we'd stop killing people, quashing youngsters dreams/hope/futures and wrecking childrens lives.
 
It's political, there can be no other reason.

We've never in history sought out perfectly healthy people from which to produce highly "spurious" cases from which don't correlate into deaths nor even hospital admissions, nor even poorly people. There is no point to this except to fuel the fear narrative. Whilst right now, other respiratory viruses that we don't hide from, kill 30-50x more. It was a seasonal virus and we were led by weak leaders who blinked whilst others stayed sane and it's being proved the world over. Lockdowns didn't do anything to stop the spread and lifiting restrictions didn't accelerate it. "Second wave" should go the same way as "novel", "lethal", "spike", "asympomatic tranmission" and all the other guff that has had people bedwetting for months. Sweden......USA........all gone quiet......

There is nothing to stop us going back to normal tomorrow morning, and if we did we'd stop killing people, quashing youngsters dreams/hope/futures and wrecking childrens lives.

So all the goverments around the world got it wrong. All they had to do was look on a cycling forum !

Why would governments around the world want to fuel the fear narrative ? - just for the hell of it ?
 
Sweden:-

Sweden has so far reported 5,832 deaths due to coronavirus, more than six times as many as reported in Denmark (264) and Norway (626) combined. This means Denmark and Norway would need to suffer a series of quite severe outbreaks for their per capita death rate to begin to rival that of Sweden.

Source: Daily Telegraph.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
It's political, there can be no other reason.

We've never in history sought out perfectly healthy people from which to produce highly "spurious" cases from which don't correlate into deaths nor even hospital admissions, nor even poorly people. There is no point to this except to fuel the fear narrative. Whilst right now, other respiratory viruses that we don't hide from, kill 30-50x more. It was a seasonal virus and we were led by weak leaders who blinked whilst others stayed sane and it's being proved the world over. Lockdowns didn't do anything to stop the spread and lifiting restrictions didn't accelerate it. "Second wave" should go the same way as "novel", "lethal", "spike", "asympomatic tranmission" and all the other guff that has had people bedwetting for months. Sweden......USA........all gone quiet......

There is nothing to stop us going back to normal tomorrow morning, and if we did we'd stop killing people, quashing youngsters dreams/hope/futures and wrecking childrens lives.
It's political, there can be no other reason.

We've never in history sought out perfectly healthy people from which to produce highly "spurious" cases from which don't correlate into deaths nor even hospital admissions, nor even poorly people. There is no point to this except to fuel the fear narrative. Whilst right now, other respiratory viruses that we don't hide from, kill 30-50x more. It was a seasonal virus and we were led by weak leaders who blinked whilst others stayed sane and it's being proved the world over. Lockdowns didn't do anything to stop the spread and lifiting restrictions didn't accelerate it. "Second wave" should go the same way as "novel", "lethal", "spike", "asympomatic tranmission" and all the other guff that has had people bedwetting for months. Sweden......USA........all gone quiet......

There is nothing to stop us going back to normal tomorrow morning, and if we did we'd stop killing people, quashing youngsters dreams/hope/futures and wrecking childrens lives.

A really very odd post entirely at odds with the facts.
 

Rezillo

TwoSheds
Location
Suffolk
......USA........all gone quiet......

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Doesn't look very quiet to me. These figures are for deaths per week and total deaths as modelled for September. By the end of the month, the forecasts are clustered around 3,000 to 7,000 deaths a week for the US, down from a peak of around 8,000 actual deaths per week at the beginning of August and around 7,000 per week actual at the end of August.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/forecasting-us.html
 
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Doesn't look very quiet to me. These figures are for deaths per week and total deaths as modelled for September. By the end of the month, the forecasts are clustered around 3,000 to 7,000 deaths a week for the US, down from a peak of around 8,000 actual deaths per week at the beginning of August and around 7,000 per week actual at the end of August.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/forecasting-us.html

I can't believe he is citing the USA to back up his point that COVID is nothing to worry about !!!!
 
It's political, there can be no other reason.

We've never in history sought out perfectly healthy people from which to produce highly "spurious" cases from which don't correlate into deaths nor even hospital admissions, nor even poorly people. There is no point to this except to fuel the fear narrative. Whilst right now, other respiratory viruses that we don't hide from, kill 30-50x more. It was a seasonal virus and we were led by weak leaders who blinked whilst others stayed sane and it's being proved the world over. Lockdowns didn't do anything to stop the spread and lifiting restrictions didn't accelerate it. "Second wave" should go the same way as "novel", "lethal", "spike", "asympomatic tranmission" and all the other guff that has had people bedwetting for months. Sweden......USA........all gone quiet......

There is nothing to stop us going back to normal tomorrow morning, and if we did we'd stop killing people, quashing youngsters dreams/hope/futures and wrecking childrens lives.

If this were coming from someone with expertise in the fields of science and medicine who actually knew what they were talking about it would be worrying enough to at least consider.

As it's not, I'll treat it as just another bloke-down-the-pub load of old bollux.
 

pawl

Legendary Member
And I take it such an alpha male as yourself has no underlying health conditions ?


I am in the high end of the age group identified as being at risk.I have no underlying health conditions.

Despite skiipdiverjhons view of the current situation which to me sounds like stuff you Jack I’m alright I will continue to take precautions to protect myself and my family I would certainly reject any advice by him and anybodyl like him with the same views.As for Wither Spoons I have only been in there on one occasion Once was enough.
 
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