Coronavirus outbreak

[DCLane]

A long winded way of saying they've to shut, again?

Not necessarily. If it's one family/household then they can go.

 

[classic33]

Not necessarily. If it's one family/household then they can go.

There won't be many opening to just one household though, they'd not survive.


Local rumour mill has one of the council members testing positive, but still attending the Town Hall.

 

[RoadRider400]

Bit of a worry this is happening in the height of summer. How are we going to get through the whole of winter?

 

[classic33]

And it Yorkshire Day on Saturday.
Piece Hall has already been rebooked for this. Will they hold off until after, or loose the money paid by not allowing it to re-open.

 

[marinyork]

There won't be many opening to just one household though, they'd not survive.

Local rumour mill has one of the council members testing positive, but still attending the Town Hall.

These things are going to be reviewed every week. If the numbers are stubborn like Leicester it wouldn't be a surprise if next week some things are closed by regulation.

 

[classic33]

These things are going to be reviewed every week. If the numbers are stubborn like Leicester it wouldn't be a surprise if next week some things are closed by regulation.

There's town centre pubs being shut two -three times a week, because they've failed to keep to the rules.

We're up 19 on the last time? for confirmed cases. Kirklees is up 10.

 

[tom73]

It's Eid this weekend and Moslems in the areas specified will be celebrating Eid-al-Adha by visiting each others' houses.

The figures in Kirklees (my area) show concentrations of cases in three specific areas, which also correspond to high BAME (almost entirely Moslem) populations and a large Romanian/Hungarian population who are working in the bed factories/meat processing. It's been covered in local media, together with cultural leaders, for several weeks asking them to stop meeting up.



It apparently covers private gardens as well: https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news...onavirus-yorkshire-bradford-kirklees-18692041

Yes it look's that way from the reports i've seen sensible to include private areas it's always been open to abuse.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Bit of a worry this is happening in the height of summer. How are we going to get through the whole of winter?

I'm in Scotland. What is this "summer" of which you speak?

 

[classic33]

I'm in Scotland. What is this "summer" of which you speak?

The days have a bit more daylight, and the chance of snow isn't as high as the start & end of the year.

 

[Adam4868]

Looks like Kirklees wasn't even in on it...

View: https://twitter.com/KirkleesCouncil/status/1288957453141508097?s=19

 

[tom73]

Bit of a worry this is happening in the height of summer. How are we going to get through the whole of winter?

We can't without some real , clear , consistent public health messaging. Bring in face covering in all inclosed areas and opening up testing to all with or without symptoms Which is accessible to everyone not just drive though but full time walk in with or without booking. Allowing Local public health to truly lead this from the ground up they know what's going on and what areas area are becoming an issue.
Independent SAGE have suggested that pubs that have indoor areas only be closed and only allow outdoor drinking only. Which is not a bad idea. In the next few weeks a few things by have to change opening up is a risky business and needs to watched carefully and need's very quick, proactive action when it's going south.

 

[classic33]

We can't without some real , clear , consistent public health messaging. Bring in face covering in all inclosed areas and opening up testing to all with or without symptoms Which is accessible to everyone not just drive though but full time walk in with or without booking. Allowing Local public health to truly lead this from the ground up they know what's going on and what areas area are becoming an issue.
Independent SAGE have suggested that pubs that have indoor areas only be closed and only allow outdoor drinking only. Which is not a bad idea. In the next few weeks a few things by have to change opening up is a risky business and needs to watched carefully and need's very quick, proactive action when it's going south.

With regards the testing, a better record needs to be kept of those tested. My result was texted back with a different name to what was given by me. As far as I know, the only correct details they have is the phone number the text was sent to.

 

[classic33]

Looks like Kirklees wasn't even in on it...

View: https://twitter.com/KirkleesCouncil/status/1288957453141508097?s=19

Calderdale council have nothing on their twitter feed about it either.

 

[rualexander]

No covid 19 deaths in Scotland now for two weeks.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

I have been a bit worried by the stuff I've seen reported for pubs/contact tracing elsewhere where it appears there's just a massive data dump where everyone who visit an establishment on a day is told to self isolate for fourteen days. There was a bit of argy bargy between skipdriverjohn and bromptonbruce the other day on this which reflects public trust........
If the public suspect massive data dumps where everyone on a particular day is told to self isolate for 14 days even if they test negative then the economy will collapse or people will not follow the rules.

That's exactly the reason why neither I, nor anyone I drink with, is prepared to submit our contact details to the government when going out for a beer. That's our decision based on the fact none of us fancy being told what to do on a crude, non-targeted, blunderbuss basis without even proving that we actually have the virus and are carriers. If they want to give me a virus test, and then pay me my full wages for two weeks if I test positive and they want me to isolate, that's fair enough and I would have no issue with cooperating.

What they have implemented though, is a crude "you might have come into contact with someone who has the virus, so we want you to stay home for two weeks and not be able to earn a living or go about your business, and BTW you have to bear the cost" regime.
I'm not at all impressed how track & trace is being done. If someone in my local comes down with the virus, the logical thing would be to send out the testers to visit the pub and offer all the regulars an on the spot test - and guarantee that anyone testing positive would get 100% of their regular wages paid if asked to isolate. That would work as no-one would be any worse off by co-operating. The system they have got, you are personally better off staying anonymous and refusing to give the government any information, which undermines the effectiveness of the tracing scheme.