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tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire

Adam4868

Legendary Member
So if it's a coffee shop inside a shop and you go for a take away you need a mask ? But if it's just a shop selling take away you don't ? Well that cleared that up. It's shop for FFS covid can't tell the difference unless i've missed that key bit of research. So now is official government advice if you want to stay covid free move into pret ?
I've a important announcement,I've never been in a Pret.
 

PapaZita

Guru
Location
St. Albans
It's shop for FFS covid can't tell the difference

It is confusing, and that interview was a poor attempt to clarify, on both sides. As much as I hate to admit it, I have some sympathy for the Business Secretary here. People, like this interviewer, seem to try to pick apart new rules and regulations to try to find reasons not to comply. What he seemed to be trying to say, was that although there might be times when the rule can’t be enforced (such as if the type of shop falls into some sort of grey area), it’s still a jolly good idea to wear a mask if you possibly can.
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
It is confusing, and that interview was a poor attempt to clarify, on both sides. As much as I hate to admit it, I have some sympathy for the Business Secretary here. People, like this interviewer, seem to try to pick apart new rules and regulations to try to find reasons not to comply. What he seemed to be trying to say, was that although there might be times when the rule can’t be enforced (such as if the type of shop falls into some sort of grey area), it’s still a jolly good idea to wear a mask if you possibly can.
I know what you mean but he didn’t even attempt to say that. he just tried to make out it was actually very simple and they (the gov) had been very clear.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
It is confusing, and that interview was a poor attempt to clarify, on both sides. As much as I hate to admit it, I have some sympathy for the Business Secretary here. People, like this interviewer, seem to try to pick apart new rules and regulations to try to find reasons not to comply. What he seemed to be trying to say, was that although there might be times when the rule can’t be enforced (such as if the type of shop falls into some sort of grey area), it’s still a jolly good idea to wear a mask if you possibly can.

That's Kay Burley all over, it's why I don't watch it generally. She's famous for the 'five firemen' question years ago which epitomizes this.

A GP has a weekly slot on her breakfast show where he talks in depth about Coronavirus and it's the best coverage on Sky in the morning. Kay Burley has interviewed him many times and mostly lets him get on with it and doesn't ask too many silly questions. The GP gets quite a long slot, I think about 5 mins.
 

PapaZita

Guru
Location
St. Albans
I know what you mean but he didn’t even attempt to say that.

Hamstrung by the inability to concede that anything the government ever does might be slightly less than perfect? You wouldn’t expect to hear, “Look, we drew this legislation up in a hurry, it isn’t completely watertight, but it’s good enough.”
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Curiously, these challenges about coffee shops and the like don’t seem to have happened in Sturgeonland, where she made masks mandatory last week. People here are just getting on with it, it’s not been an issue. A clearer leadership style perhaps ?

I'm not sure the obsession about the coffee shops is quite the issue people might think it might be.

My understanding is a proportion have opened for weeks for takeaway so got a feel for issues and how to keep people as safe as they can. Many OTHER coffee shops re-opened a week on 4th July or shortly after and have chosen to be takeaway only. Many other coffee shops are still closed even now. I can honestly see quite a few not reopening.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Me either and I've only once been in a 'Subway'
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Hamstrung by the inability to concede that anything the government ever does might be slightly less than perfect? You wouldn’t expect to hear, “Look, we drew this legislation up in a hurry, it isn’t completely watertight, but it’s good enough.”
He's the business security it's his job to know his dept came up with guidelines. Much of which say's the rules are the same as face covering use on public transport. Which is nothing new and not too different to understand. Even for a government minister. He made it a car crash interview. He just needed to say in shops yes unless you're eating in. Eating and drinking which is clearly covered in the public transport guidelines. The shop ones say for rules of use see public transport rules. But know he was trying to defend Gove and ended up giving the anti anything brigade more ammo. In turn making important public health message into nothing more than media fodder.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
There are times when a simple "I don't know. I expect so. Let's wait for the detail to be decided and published." would be better than bluffing. But Johnson has appointed an exec full of "Ministers for Bluffing" now.

The Ministry of Bluffing. Sound like another Harry Potter film. Pure fiction. :laugh:
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Me either and I've only once been in a 'Subway'
I once went in a "Subway" with white-on-blue signs and I couldn't find the sales counter. Maybe the yellow and green ones are different?
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