Coronavirus outbreak

[Beebo]

My neighbours, both in late 60s are heading off tomorrow on a 3 week cruise.
It was due to go to India, Sri Lankan and SE Asia. But it’s ow doing Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Oman, and various stops in India.
They were offered a full refund but decided to go anyway.
Not sure I would have gone. The risk of being stuck on a quarantined boat is too high.
I wonder what they will return to?

Update.
The cruise was cancelled this morning. Just 7 hours before the plane was taking off from Heathrow. There will be some people who would have already started travelling to the airport.

 

[Skibird]

First case reported on the IOW, from St Mary's hospital (last night)

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

This is good -


View: https://twitter.com/PalliThordarson/status/1236549305189597189

 

[Mugshot]

2 cases confirmed in Pembrokeshire, couple had recently returned from Northern Italy. They're currently on lockdown.

 

[numbnuts]

First case reported on the IOW, from St Mary's hospital (last night)

I think we should stop the IOW ferrys

 

[Dave7]

It would be good if someone made a decision - flights are already paid so if the government banned travel then we could get a refund.
It must be a nightmare for all the hoteliers and restaurant owners and their staff in these areas who will be relying on tourist business for their liveliehood.

Which government, uk or italy??
If our government doesn't step in then I doubt there will be any refund.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Chill out, they are still very unlikely to have passed anything onto you unless you are in very close contact with them. Family and work mates are the real danger, and tadgers in general who won't wash their hands. I hope that your neighbor's recover quickly.

They did say they weren’t bricking it

 

[Nigeyy]

Serious question for anyone medically qualified to answer:

I keep reading that a facemask (assuming one that is fit for purpose) will not protect you from the corona virus, but will stop people who have it from spreading it. This seems to infer that:

i. the person who has the Corona virus has it (somewhat) blocked from entering the air around them when they breathe or sneeze. Assuming they sneeze, the maximum velocity of droplets is at the mouth, so the mask must do some considerable blocking.

ii. with the same mask, someone who does not have the virus isn't well protected from breathing it in.

So on one hand, it seems it stops the virus, but on the other, it seems to not stop it. Can anyone clarify that for me? I'm guessing wearing a suitable mask would at least protect you from breathing in some droplets.... Is some efficiency better than no efficiency?

BTW, I should add I'm not going around wearing a mask and haven't got plans to, nor have I been out panic buying toilet paper or disinfectant wipes! I am, however, curious.

 

[newfhouse]

So on one hand, it seems it stops the virus, but on the other, it seems to not stop it. Can anyone clarify that for me?

I think the answer is likely to be that the masks collect saliva, snot etc. If someone sprays your mask with their droplets they will soak through the fabric over time and you will still breathe them in. If you sneeze into your own mask the droplets are no longer airborne so are less likely to reach a recipient.

I am neither a doctor nor a mask wearer.

 

[Blue Hills]

People are still stockpiling pasta and bog roll here. Seriously: we've had 400 known cases in just over two months, which means probably lots more where symptoms were so mild that people didn't notice anything, and where they thought it was a common cold and carried on as normal.

Yes I was wondering that - so many many people have maybe already had it/are no longer prey to the thing - so they have nothing to worry about nor those they might come into contact with?
Am assuming that if you have had it once/recovered you can't catch it again/pass it on unless it seriously mutates?
True?

 

[Mo1959]

Yes I was wondering that - so many many people have maybe already had it/are no longer prey to the thing - so they have nothing to worry about nor those they might come into contact with?
Am assuming that if you have had it once/recovered you can't catch it again/pass it on unless it seriously mutates?
True?

I was wondering about that too, and also if it could be like seasonal flu and come back another year as a different strain.

 

[Blue Hills]

The historical culture of big handshakes / hugs / cheek kissing in Italy is probably why the thing is spreading so much over there. Add in the fact that a lot of the older generation are the most likely to do all of that stuff, and you get a perfect storm. In Iran, there’s a religious culture of kissing religious objects ( licking them in some cases ) which again explains a lot. I think the cultural differences both explain the discrepancy, and help to explain the lack of such severity in spread elsewhere.

A lot of elderly churchgoers in Italy. As I cycled around used to watch them at chucking-out time a fair bit in the bit of Italy I know well. Mostly elderly women from what I could see.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

This is good -


View: https://twitter.com/PalliThordarson/status/1236549305189597189

It is, including his second follow up thread on Twitter.

 

[Blue Hills]

Official advice here is to self-quarantine for two weeks from the time of returning if you've been to northern Italy. Whether you have symptoms or not. Just saying...

you sure?
I thought it was just if you have symptoms?
Or have been to some specified towns?

 

[Smokin Joe]

2 cases confirmed in Pembrokeshire, couple had recently returned from Northern Italy. They're currently on lockdown.

Apparently they have been self isolating since their return.