Coronavirus outbreak

[snorri]

who knows if only i'd have stayed alert.

No need for any feelings of guilt, no sane person could have remained alert through that rambling 'speech'.

 

[Tanis8472]

No, I think they will. How many times do we hear about the Tories being in the pocket of big business? Well big business stands to be devastated unless the Tories act. Expect to see big construction projects, lots of housebuilding and an emphasis on British manufacturing to lessen a perceived dependency on Chinese imports.

The real question is, what departments are going to take the hit? I'm betting Education, Defence and Foreign Aid will be the main ones. Another raise to the pension age and increased taxes together with a deliberate raising of inflation.

I wasn't disagreeing, just stating that given the choice they wouldn't. They don't really have a choice now. Which is good.

Foreign aid is miniscule though. 👍

 

[IaninSheffield]

It would be far easier to social distance in a secondary school. If you had only years 10 and 12 doing core subjects only and taught in half class sizes it could work. No chance with 4 - 6 year olds though.

"Easier"? Probably. But arguably still not workable?
In classrooms and with subjects where movement around the room can be avoided, then maybe ... for the duration of the lesson. But wouldn't the real problem be trying to address social distancing during circulation tiime? Whether along narrow corridors, into and out of classrooms, during breaktimes, or coming to and going from school. Then there's the issue of the churning population. Unlike in (some) workplaces where employees are more likely to be in relatively stable workgroups for much of the time (perhaps even like a primary sch classroom?), yrs 10 & 12 will be in groups which change several times a day. Therefore isn't the virus afforded a better chance to move more swiftly through the population?
In a moderate sized school with lets say 300 yr 10s and 12s, what are the odds of all of them being and remaining virus free? Then what is the likelihood of maintaining a level of social distancing, hand hygiene and transmission prevention throughout the day, day after day? I'm sure better, brighter folks than I will have done the modelling to inform the latest guidance, but were I still in the classroom, I'd be worried.

 

[Mike_P]

"Easier"? Probably. But arguably still not workable?
In classrooms and with subjects where movement around the room can be avoided, then maybe ... for the duration of the lesson. But wouldn't the real problem be trying to address social distancing during circulation tiime? Whether along narrow corridors, into and out of classrooms, during breaktimes, or coming to and going from school. Then there's the issue of the churning population. Unlike in (some) workplaces where employees are more likely to be in relatively stable workgroups for much of the time (perhaps even like a primary sch classroom?), yrs 10 & 12 will be in groups which change several times a day. Therefore isn't the virus afforded a better chance to move more swiftly through the population?
In a moderate sized school with lets say 300 yr 10s and 12s, what are the odds of all of them being and remaining virus free? Then what is the likelihood of maintaining a level of social distancing, hand hygiene and transmission prevention throughout the day, day after day? I'm sure better, brighter folks than I will have done the modelling to inform the latest guidance, but were I still in the classroom, I'd be worried.

One solution would be for teachers to move room not the pupils, only one desk etc to disinfect. What Boris should have said was employers this week must look at how staff who cannot work at home can work, carry out any necessary measures and allow those staff to return to work rather than simply instructing people to go to work without seemingly much thought by the brain cell.

 

[IaninSheffield]

One solution would be for teachers to move room not the pupils

Perhaps a mitigation rather than a 'solution'?

 

[tom73]

Perhaps a mitigation rather than a 'solution'?

Works well in PUR's ones I work with have been being it for years for all year groups. Good opportunity to redesign the curriculum at the same time. Linear learning is much more productive then the current subject in a little box set up. As with many things on the back of this education needs a total rethink from start to finish.

 

[tom73]

 

[tom73]

Being alert i've had another look at the cartoons ... oh sorry info graphics and it's all become clear.

Step 1 Man in hardhat stands watching cyclist crash into your mate exercising sat on a bench. Being a responsible cyclist as most of us are he's got insurance.
Step 2 Children flee

 

[downesy]

Maybe to help the cost cutting, an ideal time to scrap trident

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Foreign aid is miniscule though. 👍

Maybe to help the cost cutting, an ideal time to scrap trident

Foreign Aid - £14bn a year
Trident - £2bn a year (or 6 days of the furlough scheme cost)

 

[fossyant]

There's going to be some right ding dongs between Scousers, Mancs, Stokies and North Wales Police.

Boris says we can drive to places, well Mark Drakeford says you can't so here is your fine.

Yup, it's not far to my caravan, and closer to the border on the Welsh side than the English side. About 50 miles from home, 20 miles from the van. Still not going.

 

[Archie_tect]

Cumbria will remain in lockdown and visitors will be turned away... the Police are terrified of anyone becoming ill and Cumbria has one of the highest rates of infection per100,000... they know what West Cumberland Hospital was like before C-19.

 

[downesy]

Foreign Aid - £14bn a year
Trident - £2bn a year (or 6 days of the furlough scheme cost)
[/QUOTE
"Help" being the keyword here, every little helps

 

[marinyork]

Some lowest paid workers most at risk of dying from coronavirus, ONS says

Caelainn Barr
Some of the lowest paid workers have the highest Covid-19 death rate according to new figures from the Office for National Statistics.
Security guards, care workers, taxi drivers, bus drivers, chefs and retail workers are all at a greater risk of dying from Covid-19, according to new analysis.
Among people of working age men are at a greater risk of dying from the virus than women, with 9.9 deaths compared to 4.2 fatalities per 100,000 people. However the figures show men working in the lowest skilled jobs face the greatest risk of dying from the virus.
Men working as security guards had one of the highest rates, with 45.7 deaths per 100,000, followed by taxi drivers and chauffeurs (36.4), bus and coach drivers (26.4), chefs (35.9), and sales and retail assistants (19.8).
Care workers and home carers had higher death rates, with 23.4 deaths per 100,000 men and 9.6 deaths per 100,000 women. However healthcare workers, including doctors and nurses, were not found to have a higher death rate when compared to the general population.
The figures come as the government has directed workers in some sectors to return to work if possible.

The Guardian

 

[tom73]

On the boarder issue some roads and streets will be split in two. Some staying Alert and some staying at home.
Some told to work but live in area that's told stay at home
How's this whole thing possibly going to work?