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midlife

Guru
Not sure how employers can keep their employees 2m apart from tomorrow. My workplace was crammed into an old car park when it was built so I doubt if it could ever be covid secure
 

stowie

Legendary Member
Johnson is trying to be friends with everyone and not saying stuff that people could be offended by.

An anonymous advisor during his Mayoralty said that Boris never left a room before everyone in it thought he agreed with them.

In this case, I think he is being pushed (probably through leaks that led to detailed plans being published and "freedom" headlines) by certain groups in his party to open up faster than medical expert advice would recommend. Although he dealt with Brexit dissent by sacking MPs, the dissenters this time seem to be coming from the right, ERG, Brexity wing of his party which is now his core support, so he will be weak when dealing with them.

This can be seen by the areas that are most ambiguous. Exercise - pretty clear. Working - pretty unclear. I doubt the right of his party are particularly concerned about allowing people to exercise more but they do want people working and certainly off furlough.

What does really scare me (other than COVID itself) is the fact that furlough is masking the impending huge redundancies and unemployment that is going to occur. July is going to see appalling news on jobs, possibly unseen before in our lifetimes. The government will need to invest and spend unprecedented amounts for economic recovery and I just don't think this government has the stomach for it. Austerity isn't going to cut it, and if this is the route taken we will end up circling the drain.
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
An anonymous advisor during his Mayoralty said that Boris never left a room before everyone in it thought he agreed with them.
If you look at the advice through that lens, That does make sense . Trying to please the 'stay at home' and also the 'you can leave home' sides of the dabte, at the same time, seems like a losing battle though. It also doesnt work well when both sides can see what you promised them.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
What does really scare me (other than COVID itself) is the fact that furlough is masking the impending huge redundancies and unemployment that is going to occur. July is going to see appalling news on jobs, possibly unseen before in our lifetimes. The government will need to invest and spend unprecedented amounts for economic recovery and I just don't think this government has the stomach for it. Austerity isn't going to cut it, and if this is the route taken we will end up circling the drain.

Yup, recession is coming but I disagree this government won't spend. Who would have said 6 months ago a Tory govt, particularly this Tory govt would be paying 80% of people's wages? We're in uncharted waters and the old rules don't apply.
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Given a choice, i dont think they would though.

No, I think they will. How many times do we hear about the Tories being in the pocket of big business? Well big business stands to be devastated unless the Tories act. Expect to see big construction projects, lots of housebuilding and an emphasis on British manufacturing to lessen a perceived dependency on Chinese imports.

The real question is, what departments are going to take the hit? I'm betting Education, Defence and Foreign Aid will be the main ones. Another raise to the pension age and increased taxes together with a deliberate raising of inflation.
 
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