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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Source code is public. Published last week.
Undocumented, in the relatively recent/unstandardised/minority languages Kotlin (a Java derivative) and Swift (which they mislabelled as objective C), without the server software needed to make it work and of course missing the keys needed to use it with a nhsx server. It's only just better than the bare minimum publication - and I'm not sure if you can compare it to the apps on the app store to be sure it's the real deal when it's missing bits needed for the build? https://github.com/nhsx
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I can’t see much changing over the next few weeks.

I will still social distance and work from home, I told my boss my workflow is actually up since working from home and will return to the office when I’m comfortable to.

Also people need to take heed from the 1918 pandemic, the 2nd wave was devastating.

Only thing I wanted to try and get hold of is masks, my initial thoughts were good quality pollution ones but that’s not going to happen, most sites I trust are booked until August.

I know masks in general are better at stopping the user infecting others but that’s the point, if enough people used them it would be more effective.

Try these maybe uk based and 50% to NHS together https://justlush.co.uk
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
Undocumented, in the relatively recent/unstandardised/minority languages Kotlin (a Java derivative) and Swift (which they mislabelled as objective C), without the server software needed to make it work and of course missing the keys needed to use it with a nhsx server. It's only just better than the bare minimum publication - and I'm not sure if you can compare it to the apps on the app store to be sure it's the real deal when it's missing bits needed for the build? https://github.com/nhsx

It is the preferred language for Android Apps and transpiles into Java anyway. If you understand Java or similar derived languages you’ll understand Kotlin. What programming languages are you trained in?
 
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gavgav

Legendary Member
Has the law been repealed? Police can still enforce if not surely. Do you really think that the ‘dicks’ referred to earlier (who appear to be far more likely to be young men according to reports) who have been ignoring the guidance are going to argue the semantics of messaging (that hasn’t been fully clarified or the guidance updated?)

They aren't the ones i'm worried about, they would do what they want, regardless and have been doing. It's those that are 50/50 on going out, who I would imagine the majority of the time have abided by rules so far, but will now see themselves as having the freedom to go out whenever they want. How can police enforce something that has the words "majority of the time", "where possible", etc, in the message? I hope Boris clarifies things later, but i simply don't see how it is enforceble......
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Perfect just what I was looking for and they have children’s sizes as well.

Thanks again.
:okay:
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
It is the preferred language for Android Apps and transpiles into Java anyway. you understand Java or similar derived languages you’ll understand Kotlin. What programming languages are you trained in?
Kotlin's been preferred Android language for only just a year, be fair!

I can write about a dozen or so languages easily (mainly Python lately, was using Perl mostly before that) and more with the reference manuals open, but I was never trained in Java (this dates me but it only appeared after I started uni, so we still learned mainly in Modula-2!), although I can usually read it, but Kotlin seems to assume a lot of things Java makes explicit and it looks like it has some stuff from Pascal in it too. Certainly, it's not close enough to Java for the usual IDE/editor navigation to work for me.

But even leaving aside the languages, the Android app has almost no documentation (the docs folder literally contains only three graphics files) and it's not possible to do a full build and test with what's been released so far, is it?
 

vickster

Legendary Member
They aren't the ones i'm worried about, they would do what they want, regardless and have been doing. It's those that are 50/50 on going out, who I would imagine the majority of the time have abided by rules so far, but will now see themselves as having the freedom to go out whenever they want. How can police enforce something that has the words "majority of the time", "where possible", etc, in the message? I hope Boris clarifies things later, but i simply don't see how it is enforceble......
And what are all of these people going to be doing or where will they be going if everything is still shut, offices / workplaces are still closed, they are still furloughed, the guidance still says do not meet with others, the police are still keeping an eye on parks and the legislation is still in place?
I expect they’ll soon bore of B&Q and garden centres.
Cycling, walking, jogging more than once a day?
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
Kotlin's been preferred Android language for only just a year, be fair!

I can write about a dozen or so languages easily (mainly Python lately, was using Perl mostly before that) and more with the reference manuals open, but I was never trained in Java (this dates me but it only appeared after I started uni, so we still learned mainly in Modula-2!), although I can usually read it, but Kotlin seems to assume a lot of things Java makes explicit and it looks like it has some stuff from Pascal in it too. Certainly, it's not close enough to Java for the usual IDE/editor navigation to work for me.

But even leaving aside the languages, the Android app has almost no documentation (the docs folder literally contains only three graphics files) and it's not possible to do a full build and test with what's been released so far, is it?

It is, you do server endpoint stubs for those bits. Standard practice in the testing cycle before full integration testing with any centralised software. More work than should be necessary but not that hard. Agree lack of technical documentation on how it is meant to work somewhat hinders it though.
 
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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
And what are all of these people going to be doing or where will they be going if everything is still shut, offices / workplaces are still closed, they are still furloughed, the guidance still says do not meet with others, the police are still keeping an eye on parks and the legislation is still in place?
I expect they’ll soon bore of B&Q and garden centres.
Cycling, walking, jogging more than once a day?
Or just driving round and round and round, stopping in random country-lane gateways. I'm not sure what else but pre-unlock trips to the coast would explain this weekend's sudden increase in motor traffic here. I wonder if the police will get power to introduce roadblocks and controls if the travel restrictions are to be continued.
 

Johnno260

Veteran
Location
East Sussex
And what are all of these people going to be doing or where will they be going if everything is still shut, offices / workplaces are still closed, they are still furloughed, the guidance still says do not meet with others, the police are still keeping an eye on parks and the legislation is still in place?
I expect they’ll soon bore of B&Q and garden centres.
Cycling, walking, jogging more than once a day?

Worry I have is police are up against it anyway.

Least they’re fast at responding the speeding muppets round this way.

I had some muppet pass me on a rural road yesterday I’m certain he was pushing 100mph, I would perma ban these tools if caught.
 
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