Sounds like your boss is call Matt
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Well I know on some of the locally on news and otherwise I've seen a lot of frustrated comments from care home workers. There's been a survey saying care workers can't access it, among other reasons because they aren't mobile, they can't drive to x. On the other hand there are other essential workers that are highly mobile and this in theory would be a doddle.
The sources for Milton Keynes Biosample capacity/existence are:-
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/16/swab-tester-uk-germany-south-korea
Sky news tv reports
Sky news reports on-line https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-why-isnt-the-uk-using-its-full-testing-capacity-11977115
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...tre-only-conducting-1500-tests-a-day-11971991
Not heard much about Cheshire and Glasgow supercentres like Milton Keynes recently. Maybe they are having the same kind of issues Milton Keynes had.
What I'd want would be a reliable number for the number of essential workers and broken down by category, so the media and public can scrutinise the policy ahead of the on-line scrum to get tested. How many care workers, truck drivers, how many ICU workers, how many other medical and allied professionals in hospitals, how many others in hospitals such as cleaners and porters, GPs, support workers, teachers, police, fire and many other categories. I do want people tested, but I can just see it being a chaotic scrum.
We have talked on here about schools with September talked about as a date. Would it be realistic say in August to plan in place now to run serological tests on every single teacher in the country in the last two weeks of August, those that haven't had the virus noted and plans around that. Would it be possible to swab every single teacher the week before school etc. Prisons probably a lot more pressing at the moment.
lane
Veteran
Yep saw the Governor of (I think Georgia). In addition he also mentioned body piercing shops
, bowling alleys and gyms.
David, actually, but it might be his middle name..Sounds like your boss is call Matt
Mental health stuff isn't really being given any kind of serious thought here at the moment. After this week I'm much less optimistic anything meaningful will be done. I think we're heading for a big mental health crisis that'll start to become more obvious about 3-4 week's time, irrespective of the state of things or death rates etc. A lot of the 1-peakers, which includes a fair number of people with mental health problems will realise that 'normal' life and 'support' are gone and that the authorities have not got any kind of plan to help other than making sure they are fed with 1970s protect and survive packs with angel delight mix in. Scary stuff.
Locally the trusts have little idea how 'service users' are doing and are asking (which is unusual) how are people doing. This is great as potentially allows for an avenue out. The darker side of that is there seems to be a lot of confirmation bias going on to me. That the dominant discourse on this is that people are doing surprisingly 'well'. That people are content at having minimalist support over the telephone. This is mostly a complete reversal of reality to what I see out there. I think also as in physical health where people aren't visiting A&E and other medical help, that for mental health help people are not seeking it out, that there's an expectation that everything is closed and that they'd feel guilty for wasting people's time and a fear of being judged for doing so. The blitz spirit dialogue seems to be very dominant among professional job types living in leafy suburbs and villages and assuming it must be broadly the same in poor areas or even in neighbours they aren't seeing.
Sadly your right everything except a few have closed for the duration. The message that some services are still running is not getting though to ones who need it which needs to be fixed quickly.
All the talk of unlocking in the press, government and most peoples mindset is all about shopping and the material stuff which really don't matter. It would save a lot of money, time and yes lives if unlocking moved away from normal stuff 1st and to found ways to open up much needed support services. But then long before all this mental health has mostly been a footnote for most or worse still the next celebrity must have. The mental health impact of all this will be much bigger than the economic one and will last a lot longer.
We had a mental health time bomb before all this lord knows what will end up with once we do open things up.
All the talk of unlocking in the press, government and most peoples mindset is all about shopping and the material stuff which really don't matter. It would save a lot of money, time and yes lives if unlocking moved away from normal stuff 1st and to found ways to open up much needed support services. But then long before all this mental health has mostly been a footnote for most or worse still the next celebrity must have. The mental health impact of all this will be much bigger than the economic one and will last a lot longer.
We had a mental health time bomb before all this lord knows what will end up with once we do open things up.
johnblack
Veteran
- Location
- South Northamptonshire
Sky News Poll, shows an interesting reponse among the general public that may not correlate with the views expressed in the CC world.
Julia9054
Guru
- Location
- Knaresborough
Well it turns out that the Harrogate Nightingale has now postponed taking patients indefinitely so my son has lost his job. Some porters and domestics being transferred to Airedale and LGI but not a goer for my son as he doesn't drive.
We will be having a bbq tonight to celebrate the shortest career in history. Newbie cleaner, promoted to domestic supervisor and then out of work all within the space of 3 weeks!
We will be having a bbq tonight to celebrate the shortest career in history. Newbie cleaner, promoted to domestic supervisor and then out of work all within the space of 3 weeks!
kingrollo
Guru
or in the uk anyone receiving state benefits !!!
midlife
Guru
I thought you could only book a test if you / family member had virus symptoms ? Site has crashed because of demand apparently....
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The communication side of things was one of the concerns I had this week. A new model of 'stepped care' floated out of somewhere where 'hubs' communicate help and somehow communicate and convince people to take up and usher people onto what they need and what form/actually remains of secondary care. Of places still running services, with the specific exception of domestic violence and alcohol support, I've seen information that suggests large reductions in people seeking help - communication or what I called it being expectation that everything is closed, probably being a big one. Demand in six month's time was also an interesting one as information on that down on paper saying people expect a large increase in demand by then.
Reactivity is another one. The people planning out this stuff do realise how long it'll go on for, but things might change quickly. I think stuff planned will get locked in and stay broadly the same.
Resilience of the system leads on from that.
One way of reaching 100,000 tests by the end of April.
My impression, wrong or right from yesterday's announcement, was that all Key Workers could be tested, irrespective of whether any infection has been suspected.
I know the gov site was saying what you posted, though. If folk can't get on it, how do we know if that policy has changed?
Yes this is correct. Some of the other commentary on the tele was unhelpful.
Matt Hancock needs to get to 100,000 tests a day by the end of April. He needs to get around 60,000 out of ten million people to book at an appointment on any or as many days as possible by 29th April and the results for one day to be announced where we get 100,000.
Having testing capacity at 100 times lower than the daily capacity problem of who it's offered to is going to be a slight problem...
