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tom73

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Yorkshire
I'm time out on the competence/incompetence front - none of us know the full facts although there is an army of self-appointed experts who seem to think they do when they can't possibly know.

In an alternative scenario Whitty could well say how competent the Gov' were in the meetings he attended.

Time will tell in the same manner that the Chilcott enquiry did.

I think that there is a danger in injecting confirmation bias into possible future outcomes.

He may well say that. In same ways they maybe seen as being competent. They may start out with good intentions but much of the governments response has mostly come down to a total lack of leadership and not asking for the right help at the right time.
 

lane

Veteran
Yes. I’ve noticed a gradual increase in traffic and movement of people. I can‘t see the British public abiding by strict measures for much longer.

I was talking to someone working in a school yesterday. Once the next 3 week lockdown was announced they had an increase in people sending children into the school because they were going back to work and were classed as key workers.
 
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tom73

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Location
Yorkshire
I imagine that long knives are being sharpened everywhere. :sad:

Interesting that the attack is now at a level below that of the Government.

I should imagine that NHS senior management will be on the radar as well. The media etc are probably already digging.

Saddens me really, at the end of the day everyone is probably trying to do their best in unprecedented circumstances and we end up with a hysterical situation similar to the Salem Witch Hunt scenario. :wacko:

There will be a time for reckoning and appropriate action but right now it is less than helpful

It can also prove to be deadly as the sad case of David Kelly shows.
 
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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Views from Geoff Barton re reopening England's schools:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-52377277

Logistical nightmare for teachers if/when it happens.

To be fair to the government(s), this was one reason why it was said once they close they'll remain closed for a long time - among other specific timescales given which were 12 weeks, 13 weeks and 16 weeks.
 

tom73

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Location
Yorkshire
Views from Geoff Barton re reopening England's schools:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-52377277

Logistical nightmare for teachers if/when it happens.
Schools are a right pandoras box. I can't see them opening anytime soon maybe not till over the summer.
Even then it will be every different set up which our current education thinking is not really open to change.
As the current total mess up of what distance learning really is shows.
The real focus has to be on the ones with most need at the biggest who have just completely gone of the radar.
No-one is checking up on them or making sure they are getting the right support.
They are still able to go school but few are turning up. many know findthemslves full time in homes that really don't a stuff about them.
Or worse face daily acts of violence.
I really worry about the ones I supported as no one really cared about them in school never mind outside it.
 

Julia9054

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Location
Knaresborough
As teachers, I and my colleagues are not finding working at home easy. We have all put ourselves forward to be on the rota for being in school and I have been disappointed not to be called on yet.
Had a departmental meeting this morning via zoom. One of our department has a temperature, headache and dry cough.
She was on the rota and did a day in school exactly 7 days ago.
 

marinyork

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Location
Logopolis
Medics, mostly doctors are setting up a contact tracing network in the UK.

Unfortunately from the news report the areas they are targeting here are not the most in need of this.
 
As teachers, I and my colleagues are not finding working at home easy. We have all put ourselves forward to be on the rota for being in school and I have been disappointed not to be called on yet.
Had a departmental meeting this morning via zoom. One of our department has a temperature, headache and dry cough.
She was on the rota and did a day in school exactly 7 days ago.
I guess you realised you do actually like spending time with the kids after all! :P

Given all the disruption to lesson plans, assessment, exams yada yada ... what is the opinion in the Staffroom?
Would you rather have plenty of notice for a clean restart (say in September), or just get the kids back and learning ASAP, even if short notice makes it rather chaotic?
 

Julia9054

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Location
Knaresborough
I guess you realised you do actually like spending time with the kids after all! :P

Given all the disruption to lesson plans, assessment, exams yada yada ... what is the opinion in the Staffroom?
Would you rather have plenty of notice for a clean restart (say in September), or just get the kids back and learning ASAP, even if short notice makes it rather chaotic?
We all already knew we like spending time with the kids. It’s the workload (and often the other adults) teachers moan about! :laugh:
Assuming we as a country are following medical advice, I would be in favour of some sort of phased return before the summer holidays - possibly in July. It probably wouldn’t look like normal school, but would ease children back into some sort of routine in preparation for September. Thought would have to be given to what we do about pupils currently in year 10 and 12 who have missed teaching time on their exam courses. Reducing grade boundaries next year, reducing the course content or (worst option) trying to cram it in by reducing holiday time have all been discussed nationally.
 
Cool, that doesn't really surprise me (apart from the about liking the kids...). More left-field question:
If medical advice means you CANNOT get most kids back in before the summer break, is there any appetite for starting the "September" turn early? (most kids will have had far more than 6 weeks off anyway)

(Indicentally, I understand Sweden are bringing back Y10/11 kids first. Dunno if this is because they are in the most critical period for exams, or that they are more mature in understanding infection control?)
 
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