Coronavirus outbreak

[vickster]

Only £2.5k - how the other half lives !!!

Taxed and no benefits, holiday, pensions....

 

[lane]

Had to pop out today - I would say definitely more cars about than a couple of weeks ago quite noticeable

 

[tom73]

Should have shot the bstrd !

Well that's the thing not that it's right in any way but the ones who got a visit have only had number 2 daughter call round once.
It's the ones at the other side who are real pro's at taking the pee.

 

[kingrollo]

Well that's the thing not that it's right in any way but the ones who got a visit have only had number 2 daughter call round once.
It's the ones at the other side who are real pro's at taking the pee.

Reputation is everything !

 

[Adam4868]

Must say it's very noble of self employed bro continue working throughout this. Tree surgeons, bricklayers, painters - to think they could sit at home and 80% funded , for doing nowt very noble indeed...

Maybe not every tree surgeon,bricklayer,painter etc can afford to sit at home and wait...I know I couldn't and have been working when I can.Why do people allways presume the self employed are earning xxx amount,not paying their taxes,working when they don't need to ?

 

[kingrollo]

Maybe not every tree surgeon,bricklayer,painter etc can afford to sit at home and wait...I know I couldn't and have been working when I can.Why do people allways presume the self employed are earning xxx amount,not paying their taxes,working when they don't need to ?

I can't think why people think that - tiz a puzzle.

 

[Adam4868]

I can't think why people think that - tiz a puzzle.

A puzzle or maybe bollox ?

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Yes. I’ve noticed a gradual increase in traffic and movement of people. I can‘t see the British public abiding by strict measures for much longer.

In my area (small Burgh at the outskirts of Glasgow) there has never been strict adherence.
Major supermarkets have managed to implement social distancing really late into the pandemic, and, still, it's impossible to make their own staff keep the 2 metres from each other.
Small shops that should have shut never did.
The vulnerable are still out and about: their own choice, help is offered, but they want to go to the shops ... for fresh air (!)
I lost my job ( catering outlet), I do voluntary work at the moment, helping the vulnerable, but some of the vulnerable don't want to be helped - actually, quite a few!
I know several that, in spite of having family help, go out every day, zimmer and all

 

[mjr]

A puzzle or maybe bollox ?

Envy?

People may have missed that gov't will start contacting eligible self-employed people mid-May. And that's only start. AFAIK there's no eligibility certificate system online, so doesn't that mean if in doubt, keep working until contacted if you can? Bills still have to be paid. ETA https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a...ovid-19-self-employment-income-support-scheme

 

[Adam4868]

Envy?

People may have missed that gov't will start contacting eligible self-employed people mid-May. And that's only start. AFAIK there's no eligibility certificate system online, so doesn't that mean if in doubt, keep working until contacted if you can?

It means work whenever you can,what's the alternative ? Look after yourself until they decide to pay you...no can do.Like I say I'm lucky enough to have had a few jobs,maybe 5/6 days work in total.Morgage put on hold and feck the bills,council tax they can wait.
Back to six cans and homes under the hammer tommorow.

 

[gavroche]

Only get 2.5k a month though and assuming not making 50K profit

ONLY ??? I live on a lot less than that and don't complain.

 

[vickster]

ONLY ??? I live on a lot less than that and don't complain.

Do you work full time? Paid holidays? Pension contributions? Sick pay?
And aren’t you retired?

Who was complaining?

 

[Andy in Germany]

In my area (small Burgh at the outskirts of Glasgow) there has never been strict adherence.
Major supermarkets have managed to implement social distancing really late into the pandemic, and, still, it's impossible to make their own staff keep the 2 metres from each other.
Small shops that should have shut never did.
The vulnerable are still out and about: their own choice, help is offered, but they want to go to the shops ... for fresh air (!)
I lost my job ( catering outlet), I do voluntary work at the moment, helping the vulnerable, but some of the vulnerable don't want to be helped - actually, quite a few!
I know several that, in spite of having family help, go out every day, zimmer and all

I see the problem, but the other side of this is the Psychological health: I can imagine some people will end up so stressed and/or depressed staying in that it feels like catch 22: Go out any you may die, stay in and you probably want to...

 

[mjr]

ONLY ??? I live on a lot less than that and don't complain.

That's the maximum. Most will get 80% of their average over the last 3 tax years, so recent seed-funded start-ups and expansions are farked.

 

[randynewmanscat]

Brazil government operates on a similar system to the US. The states have a lot of power to manage their affairs, including health emergencies.

Most governors in Brazil have ignored Bolsonaro, in the same way most US states have ignored Trump.

My family are spread around Brazil, but mostly in Goias state (near Brasilia in the centre of Brasil) and Santa Catarina (in the South). All have been in lockdown since March time. In Goias state, the small town where my mother in law lives self-isolated themselves entirely by having the local police shut down the main roads into the town - it generally gets a lot of weekend tourists from the state capital and they banned all travel.

Balneario Camboriú in Santa Catarina is normally heaving at this time of the year with tourists from all over South America. It is currently deserted. You can see videos of this on youtube - I have one below



My family who live there were saying that anyone caught on the beach were escorted back home. Caught twice and they were taken to police station where they were fined (with the police taking hours for the paperwork to really make life miserable..)

All foreigners (estrangeiros) into Brazil are banned currently unless they have residency visas or some other emergency cases, so even on a federal level they are taking it seriously.

Bolsonaro's popularity rose in January mainly due to better economy, but it has absolutely slumped in recent weeks. He is desperately trying to disassociate himself from the measures in an attempt to gain more popularity.

Brazil has escaped so far the worst of the Coronavirus, but I fear this won't continue. And Brazil healthcare system is fine if you are rich and terrible if you are poor. Plus they have the largest city in the Southern Hemisphere and some of the most dense urban areas in the world such as the Rio favelas. It won't be pretty if they are as badly affected by COVID as Europe.

I appreciate your informed reply very much. I watch news from Brazil as an outsider with no friends living there so I enjoy a report from the street as it where. I think Bolsonaro is done for, at least I hope he is. It seems the military figures he installed barely talk to him and just work around him. I hope he becomes isolated, it is who comes after that is more important.