Coronavirus outbreak

[Illaveago]

I have been listening to the daily virus updates and the constant questions over testing . The Health Secretary keeps saying that they hope to test 100,000 a day by the end of the month .
What I heard on the local news today is that if a care worker suspects that they may or may not have the virus then the only test centre is 60 miles away ! Surely they need more test facilities locally ?

 

[tom73]

Of course masks help. Witty gave the game away yesterday, he said that there isnt solid evidence they work, but they need to be given to the nhs rather than the general public. He also said they are always reviewing evidence. Bet my bottom dollar that once they have sufficient supply to the NHS that they will suddenly find evidence that they are worthwhile for the general population too.

If any change comes in it will be face coverings not clinical masks. That what the evidence is focused on and that's what WHO has been talking about. Clinical masks are only really of only of any use for the general public if the wearer is covid positive.

 

[RoadRider400]

If any change comes in it will be face coverings not clinical masks. That what the evidence is focused on and that's what WHO has been talking about. Clinical masks are only really of only of any use for the general public if the wearer is covid positive.

Can you explain how that works? Do the masks stop the virus penetrating it from one direction but not the other?

 

[Rocky]

If any change comes in it will be face coverings not clinical masks. That what the evidence is focused on and that's what WHO has been talking about. Clinical masks are only really of only of any use for the general public if the wearer is covid positive.

My face covering protects you and yours protects me.

This is what we need.

 

[Rocky]

Can you explain how that works? Do the masks stop the virus penetrating it from one direction but not the other?

A face covering reduces the virus from my sneezing and breathing getting to you. Just reducing it, even though some may escape, reduces the number of people I might infect

 

[Rocky]

Here's a youtube clip from the US Surgeon General explaining how to make one.....

 

[slowmotion]

Debunked: No, Sweden has not suppressed Covid-19 more than countries with stricter measures https://www.thejournal.ie/sweden-coronavirus-debunk-5076859-Apr2020/

I wouldn't be surprised if Sweden did relatively well, no matter what steps they took. 50% of households have only one occupant so I would guess that that's a huge advantage in reducing transmission rates.

 

[kingrollo]

If any change comes in it will be face coverings not clinical masks. That what the evidence is focused on and that's what WHO has been talking about. Clinical masks are only really of only of any use for the general public if the wearer is covid positive.

But that's point - you don't know when you are infected. If you have a mask on - you limit the chances of passing it on.

I've said for a while airborne droplets would appear to be the major transmission route. All the handwashing didn't appear to slow the virus at all. Wearing masks might be more effective.

 

[kingrollo]

My face covering protects you and yours protects me.

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This is what we need.

I've got loads of those - always wear them in the cold - so my nose going into overdrive.

People at the club say I look like I'm going Rob a bank !!

 

[Milzy]

I've heard a top scientist has a theory that as the graph flattens another wave could come in and as we flatten the next wave it could happen repeatedly up to 6 times.
As there's no vaccine for a long time it could also be possible to fall ill with the virus again, or keep spreading it. I can see the vulnerable and elderly practicing social distancing all the way up to Christmas.

 

[Rocky]

I've heard a top scientist has a theory that as the graph flattens another wave could come in and as we flatten the next wave it could happen repeatedly up to 6 times.
As there's no vaccine for a long time it could also be possible to fall ill with the virus again, or keep spreading it. I can see the vulnerable and elderly practicing social distancing all the way up to Christmas.

University of Oxford are targeting having 1 million doses of a vaccine by September. The potential vaccine is undergoing clinical trials at the moment - of course it might not be effective but if it is, the vulnerable will be given it first.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52329659

 

[Illaveago]

If any change comes in it will be face coverings not clinical masks. That what the evidence is focused on and that's what WHO has been talking about. Clinical masks are only really of only of any use for the general public if the wearer is covid positive.

Full face crash helmets ?

 

[mjr]

I've said for a while airborne droplets would appear to be the major transmission route. All the handwashing didn't appear to slow the virus at all. Wearing masks might be more effective.

Did you not see the 2016 model that reckoned 800'000+ dead without hand-washing? Even the washing-but-no-lockdown 500'000 model never got quite that bad.

 

[mjr]

University of Oxford are targeting having 1 million doses of a vaccine by September. The potential vaccine is undergoing clinical trials at the moment - of course it might not be effective but if it is, the vulnerable will be given it first.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52329659

Really? Doesn't the science still say that likely-super-spreaders (care, shop and cafe workers, and so on) should get it first? If not, what changed? (It doesn't seem to be in the linked article.)

 

[Rocky]

Really? Doesn't the science still say that likely-super-spreaders (care, shop and cafe workers, and so on) should get it first? If not, what changed? (It doesn't seem to be in the linked article.)

BBC News at 6 had Prof Hill, head of the Jenner Institute in Oxford talking about the vaccine (I think in evidence to the Commons Select Cttee) saying that it would be rolled out in the normal way and given to vulnerable people first (much in the same way the 'flu jab is)