Coronavirus outbreak

[tom73]

One area that's not getting much coverage what's little help Hospices are getting. They have seen most of the money dry up the government has put some funding in place but not enough. They are crying out for PPE many have had to rely on community donations.
Lack of PPE effecting saying good bye in a hospital is one thing. But when it's effecting end of life care we really have hit rock bottom.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Does anyone have any numbers on cases where people have recovered?

 

[Andy in Germany]

One area that's not getting much coverage what's little help Hospices are getting. They have seen most of the money dry up the government has put some funding in place but not enough. They are crying out for PPE many have had to rely on community donations.
Lack of PPE effecting saying good bye in a hospital is one thing. But when it's effecting end of life care we really have hit rock bottom.

I think we already were at rock bottom: it's just that the pandemic has exposed the situation for what it is.

But hey, we clap the PPE-less staff on Thursday night, so it'll all be fine. Nothing to see here...

Oh, and care workers get a badge...

 

[tom73]

Hancock has just told the health and social care select committee that testing will now be opened up to key LA workers, police , fire , prison officers and workers, key DWP staff and the Judiciary.
I think he really believes that you make the test list longer will magical make them appear.

 

[tom73]

I think we already were at rick bottom: it's just that the pandemic has exposed the situation for what it is.

But hey, we clap the PPE-less staff on Tuesday night, so it'll all be fine. Nothing to see here...

Oh, and care workers get a badge...

Oh yes the badge old Matt has publicly said it's gone down well with staff.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Hancock has just told the health and social care select committee that testing will now be opened up to key LA workers, police , fire , prison offers and workers, key DWP staff and the Judiciary.
I think he really believes that you make the test list longer will magical make them appear.

I heard someone comment recently that the UKgov seemsto be incresing the "targets" to give the impression they have reached previous targets, so they'll say they want to do 10 000 tests, then announce the new 'target' is 20 000, and a week later say they are aiming for 100 000...

They are still barely at the 10 000 mark three weeks later, but it gives the impression it's increasing rapidly, so people assume they are testing a lot more people than they actually are.

If that's happening then this could be more of the same.

 

[slowmotion]

As of today they are reporting 18.18813 deaths per 100 000 of the population and the UK reporting 19.35358 deaths per 100 000, so on the fact of it, they seem comparable.

That said, I've heard the UK is only counting hospital
So, if those figures are correct, the chance on a randomly selected person dying in hospital from Covid 19 is 0.019% at present?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

So, if those figures are correct, the chance on a randomly selected person dying in hospital from Covid 19 is 0.019% at present?

I think a better way to interpret that might be that the chance of a person randomly selected at the start of this year having already died from COVID-19 is 0.019%

The future figure is highly uncertain and depends on our next steps as a country. It's probably at least the same again from forecasts I've seen.

 

[slowmotion]

I think a better way to interpret that might be that the chance of a person randomly selected at the start of this year having already died from COVID-19 is 0.019%

The future figure is highly uncertain and depends on our next steps as a country. It's probably at least the same again from forecasts I've seen.

Yes absolutely, but a probability of 0.019% is mighty small. I had a fairly routine operation a few years ago and had to sign a consent form. The surgeon said I had a 2% chance of dying on the operating table. I didn't think those odds were too bad really.

 

[Andy in Germany]

So, if those figures are correct, the chance on a randomly selected person dying in hospital from Covid 19 is 0.019% at present?

If they are only counting hospital deaths, I think that's correct.

 

[kingrollo]

Does anyone have any numbers on cases where people have recovered?

I noticed that stat is missing from UK stats - whether it's because most UK people have recovered at home - so hospital recoveries would look very poor.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Yes absolutely, but a probability of 0.019% is mighty small. I had a fairly routine operation a few years ago and had to sign a consent form. The surgeon said I had a 2% chance of dying on the operating table. I didn't think those odds were too bad really.

Unfortunately it could be higher if non-hospital deaths are being excluded. Also, younger people have a higher chance of survival, so the mumbers will skew depending on your age.

 

[Andy in Germany]

I noticed that stat is missing from UK stats - whether it's because most UK people have recovered at home - so hospital recoveries would look very poor.

I only found it for Scotland, but not the rest of the UK. I can't find any for Germany either, come to that.

 

[slowmotion]

Unfortunately it could be higher if non-hospital deaths are being excluded. Also, younger people have a higher chance of survival, so the mumbers will skew depending on your age.

Yes, I'm sure my personal chances are a lot worse than 0.019% due to age etc, but I find the numbers quite reassuring really. Anyway, fingers crossed.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Yes, I'm sure my personal chances are a lot worse than 0.019% due to age etc, but I find the numbers quite reassuring really. Anyway, fingers crossed.

I'm in the same situation as I'm very slightly asthmatic, and I won't be able to isolate next month...