Coronavirus outbreak

[Levo-Lon]

Mayor of London wants all travelers on trains to wear masks.
I think he must be one of the people that believe the African internet sales abundance is real...
Hands up those who have seen masks in shops or freely available .

We have 300 at work for when we get a case... Dozen staff on day shift..so only a few day ppe on that score

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

This story gets stranger. https://plus.lesoir.be/294903/artic...giques-fabriques-en-belgique-disponibles-mais says that they are not yet authorised for use in Belgium, despite the validation and start of mass production. I guess someone will buy them if Belgium doesn't?

The test is still not validated but it does look like ZenTech are pretty confident that it has market potential.

 

[Rocky]

Mayor of London wants all travelers on trains to wear masks.
I think he must be one of the people that believe the African internet sales abundance is real...
Hands up those who have seen masks in shops or freely available .

We have 300 at work for when we get a case... Dozen staff on day shift..so only a few day ppe on that score

The Prof is leading the research on this....the evidence is that it does reduce the spread of the virus by stopping people who are asymptomatic spreading it unknowingly. It won’t stop you getting infected from someone else. Masks don’t need to be medical grade just a barrier to droplets from your nose and mouth. A cycling buff will do. I’m making my own this very moment

It will reduce infection and get us back to work quicker.

 

[Andy in Germany]

My son has just tested positive for Covid19 and is self-isolating.....

Just found this: I wish your son a speedy recovery...

 

[Rocky]

Just found this: I wish your son a speedy recovery...

Thanks....he’s recovered and has even gone back to work (having isolated for the required time).

 

[Slick]

The Prof is leading the research on this....the evidence is that it does reduce the spread of the virus by stopping people who are asymptomatic spreading it unknowingly. It won’t stop you getting infected from someone else. Masks don’t need to be medical grade just a barrier to droplets from your nose and mouth. A cycling buff will do. I’m making my own this very moment

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It will reduce infection and get us back to work quicker.

If that's the case we will all be wearing one very soon. I'm now trying to imagine how that is going to work in my work, which will be difficult but sounds like it will be the new norm for everyone for a while.

 

[mjr]

The test is still not validated but it does look like ZenTech are pretty confident that it has market potential.

What do you base that on? The rtbf headline says it is validated. The visible bit of the Le Soir article says only it's not approved.

 

[tom73]

If we move towards general mask wearing then the message needs to be made very clear that clinical grade masks belong in clinical areas.
WHO and others have made it clear that for the rest of all it needs is a face covering.
The other clear message which needs to come back in force is hand washing. In recent weeks that's starting to get lost.
Covering your face than messing with it or your eyes with unclean hands will just make matters worse.
Remember your eyes are not in the mask.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

What do you base that on? The rtbf headline says it is validated. The visible bit of the Le Soir article says only it's not approved.

The second rtbf sentence: The process must still be validated by the medical world. (Encore fallait-il que ce processus soit validé par le monde médical. )

 

[Slick]

If we move towards general mask wearing then the message needs to be made very clear that clinical grade masks belong in clinical areas.
WHO and others have made it clear that for the rest of all it needs is a face covering.
The other clear message which needs to come back in force is hand washing. In recent weeks that's starting to get lost.
Covering your face than messing with it or your eyes with unclean hands will just make matters worse.
Remember your eyes are not in the mask.

That message was very clear but as always people will hear what they want to hear.

 

[tom73]

In a desperate situation a director of a large NHS trust asks the BBC for the number of Burberry and Barbour.
To try and get some gowns in quick time or in less the 24 hours they will run out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576

 

[Andy in Germany]

In a desperate situation a director of a large NHS trust asks the BBC for the number of Burberry and Barbour.
To try and get some gowns in quick time or in less the 24 hours they will run out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576

You mean clapping wasn't enough?

 

[mjr]

The second rtbf sentence: The process must still be validated by the medical world. (Encore fallait-il que ce processus soit validé par le monde médical. )

And then it describes the validation.

 

[mjr]

That message was very clear but as always people will hear what they want to hear.

It was clear but a few weeks ago, someone decided we were thicker than most countries and switched to the message which only mentions staying home: "stay home, protect the NHS, save lives". This mismessaging is probably literally killing people.

Here's the current Dutch message:

IIRC, they're on a trajettory closer to Germany than Italy than the UK is. This may be part, but only part.

Places like South Korea have cool videos with the three-point message, but I can't tell which is official and current.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

And then it describes the validation.

I read it as having very positive results after rigorous analysis from CHU but not actually validated (yet?). Perhaps CHU alone can't generally validate the test. The headline is extremely misleading.