Coronavirus outbreak

[Ming the Merciless]

Coronavirus: Army veteran Tom Moore finds out he's raised £5m for NHS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52296313

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Did my first NHS community response volunteer task today. Shopping for a vulnerable person. Only 1.5 mile trip so easy enough on my Brompton with the T bag.

 

[screenman]

There are masks and there are masks. Even a fairly simple cloth mask washed daily will reduce the range and transmission of coughed droplets. It's all a question of cost-benefit and getting each type of mask to the places where they help most. I posted one news report of effectiveness by type earlier in this thread at https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/coronavirus-outbreak.256913/post-5951635

I feel even something like a Buff would help slow down particles. Most people have a scarf or something like that I imagine.

 

[marinyork]

These sorts of subtle stupidities may well explain the difference between Sweden and its neighbours more than the different approach to lockdown severity. As far as I can tell, in Denmark, such a worker with close contact with an infected person would be instructed to work at home until they get a medical exam and schools are currently closed anyway.

What are the differences in Scandinavian countries for density, housing size, occupancy size, family size and so on?

Locally here, we have a lot of testing in UK terms (very lucky as I found out yesterday) and the virus spread isn't as bad as some other places, worse than others, but the little time local health virologists/ccg/others get on tv they say they are worried about dense housing in particular with multigenerational housing. This is broadly similar things I hear in the West Midlands and in bits of London.

Not said flippantly, but I wonder what differences countries have for things like care homes?

 

[mjr]

As expected/feared, Trump has committed the "crime against humanity" (Lancet editor quoted by ITN) of stopping payments to the WHO at a time of global health crisis. https://www.thejournal.ie/trump-who-funding-5074545-Apr2020/

 

[Unkraut]

As expected/feared, Trump has committed the "crime against humanity" (Lancet editor quoted by ITN) of stopping payments to the WHO at a time of global health crisis...

According to Trump, the WHO prevented transparency over the Covid-19 outbreak when it appeared in China, costing other countries crucial time to prepare, delaying decisions to stop international travel.

Comment is superfluous.

“Had the WHO done its job to get medical experts into China to objectively assess the situation on the ground and to call out China’s lack of transparency, the outbreak could have been contained at its source with very little death,” he said.

I thought the WHO tried repeatedly to get into China near the beginning of the outbreak but were initially prevented by the Chinese government. That can hardly be blamed on the WHO. How can you assess an situation when you are not allowed into a country.

 

[kingrollo]

According to Trump, the WHO prevented transparency over the Covid-19 outbreak when it appeared in China, costing other countries crucial time to prepare, delaying decisions to stop international travel.

Comment is superfluous.

“Had the WHO done its job to get medical experts into China to objectively assess the situation on the ground and to call out China’s lack of transparency, the outbreak could have been contained at its source with very little death,” he said.

I thought the WHO tried repeatedly to get into China near the beginning of the outbreak but were initially prevented by the Chinese government. That can hardly be blamed on the WHO. How can you assess an situation when you are not allowed into a country.

As opposed too "This will be gone by February"

 

[mjr]

As opposed too "This will be gone by February"

And in February:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKm5wrpRK4

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Just had an absolutely mind blowing conversation with a Swedish colleague.

She's working from home, but only because her daughter is off school sick with a persistent dry cough for the last 10 days. As with the UK, she will only be tested if she is admitted to hospital.

Her son, meanwhile, rather than being quarantined, is obliged to attend school as he is asymptomatic, and she would be breaking the law if she kept him at home!

And, depressingly, 170 new deaths today in Sweden. I guess inflated by Easter reporting, but that's over 1,000 pro rata to the UK and more than the entire epidemic in adjacent Norway.

 

[tom73]

Yorkshire hospitals report major gown shortage for days now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-52295131

In other news national plans now been put place to reuse PPE
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52288...ews/health&link_location=live-reporting-story
When the CMO's and CNO's have to even begin to think they need to come up with a plan.
Then clearly Hancock's 3 point plan is not working.

 

[pawl]

Cleaning would be good, there is a guy at my work , he`s been wearing the same disposable face mask for the last two weeks . The same guy who thought it was OK to wash his false teeth in the drinks fountain . Yep standards eh !

Did he first put in a steradent tablet?

 

[tom73]

Now Being reported a heavily pregnant nurse has died. Why are we allowing pregnant health workers on the frontline ?
Maybe the CNO can explain that one.
That’s if she’s learned how to count that is.

 

[numbnuts]

Now Being reported a heavily pregnant nurse has died. Why are we allowing pregnant health workers on the frontline ?
Maybe the CNO can explain that one.
That’s if she’s learned how to count that is.

Maybe her wish to work, anybody would have understood if she stopped working.

 

[Rocky]

Maybe her wish to work, anybody would have understood if she stopped working.

Perhaps she (the nurse) didn’t have a choice. Whatever the reason, it’s hugely sad. There should be a duty of care on NHS employers for their staff.

 

[numbnuts]

UPDATE
that this lady was on maternity leave !!!