Coronavirus outbreak

[Buck]

It's got nothing to do with how it's written. He's been bunged a perk, which people are going to be discussing about commentary Harries said on the matter previously, but it's clearly so. We're now onto children of the elite, it'll be servants and tennis partners next.

He's a hypocrite and nomenklatura of the highest order.

see my reply to alicat. I wasn’t addressing whether it was right the test took place or not.

 

[marinyork]

see my reply to alicat. I wasn’t addressing whether it was right the test took place or not.

That's trivial.

 

[BoldonLad]

reading the article, he went jogging on Easter Sunday, after his daughter had tested negative so, no longer needing to self isolate.

Tut tut, don’t disrupt the thread with facts, please

 

[Buck]

That's trivial.

I think not since we were discussing whether he broke self isolation whilst his daughter had symptoms and had not been tested.

 

[winjim]

Churchill during the war came up with a way for flagging up any papers that came his way.
Which he felt needed sorting in hurry he had a stamp made with "action this day"
The more this go's on the more we need someone to hunt around Whitehall for it.

Churchill spent the war pissed up on champagne and brandy while everybody else was under rationing. I can't help feeling that this is part of the reason that Johnson thinks the rules shouldn't apply to him.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Am I understanding this correctly? The 4 main PPE manufacturers in the UK, all based in England, have announced that they’ll be prioritising England and will not be sending any equipment to Scotland.

You’ve got it wrong that not what he said. There’s two points , prioritisation to NHS (including Scotland) first, then prioritisation to secondary care providers. At no point was it stated nothing would be sent to Scotland, and particularly in regards NHS.

 

[Rocky]

If a keyworker shows a negative test result then they are able to go back to work so surely that’s the same?

The guidance we’ve been given in Primary Care is that if we do not show a positive result to the test then we are able to end self isolation and go back to work.

But in this case he has bypassed the guidance by getting a test for his daughter, who may still have the virus. So in my mind, he's jumped the queue, bypassed the guidance, ignored her symptoms and endangered people who he came into contact with.

I have a dear friend who has been on ICU with pneumonia and COVID complications, after initially testing negative. He had the sense to self-isolate and keep away from his wife, who is shielded. The good news is that he has recently come home from hospital and is on the road to recovery.

 

[marinyork]

I think not since we were discussing whether he broke self isolation whilst his daughter had symptoms and had not been tested.

Discussing? What is there to work out? It's not exactly a difficult mathematical proof.

He broke self isolation by being bunged a perk.

I understand the guidance, but sometimes you simply don't appear to live in the practical world. You airy fairy said earlier in the thread about pharmacies 'delivering' things via magic wands on magic carpets. Pronouncements on supermarkets. You're now saying about guidance as if the tests were widely available, or super accurate. They aren't. A lot of people have been tested multiple times.

 

[Rocky]

Tut tut, don’t disrupt the thread with facts, please

But it is not facts is it ........it's Michael Gove dissembling. The issue about the test didn't come out until he was challenged about breaking self-isolation.

 

[Buck]

Discussing? What is there to work out? It's not exactly a difficult mathematical proof.

He broke self isolation by being bunged a perk.

I understand the guidance, but sometimes you simply don't appear to live in the practical world. You airy fairy said earlier in the thread about pharmacies 'delivering' things via magic wands on magic carpets. Pronouncements on supermarkets. You're now saying about guidance as if the tests were widely available, or super accurate. They aren't. A lot of people have been tested multiple times.

I absolutely do live in the practical world. Certainly a different view to yours but we’re all allowed our views aren’t we?

I've not said I agree with Gove’s daughter having the test. For the record I don’t.

Also, I’ve not mentioned that tests are widely available. I’ve posted guidance we have been given. No more. No less. So please, as you would say, don’t misquote me.

 

[tom73]

Churchill spent the war pissed up on champagne and brandy while everybody else was under rationing. I can't help feeling that this is part of the reason that Johnson thinks the rules shouldn't apply to him.

Yet he still gave the impression of leadership, being in control of the situation and the buck stops with me.
None of which we appear to have at the moment.

 

[Rocky]

Nuff said...........

 

[BoldonLad]

But it is not facts is it ........it's Michael Gove dissembling. The issue about the test didn't come out until he was challenged about breaking self-isolation.

Well, it would appear that, it is a fact that
A) daughter was tested
B) result was negative

My eldest daughter is recovering nicely, by the way.

 

[Rocky]

Well, it would appear that, it is a fact that
A) daughter was tested
B) result was negative

My eldest daughter is recovering nicely, by the way.

No one was disputing those facts

Here are some more
c) She was showing symptoms
d) A negative test doesn't mean no infection
e) The symptoms should not be ignored and Gove has a duty not to spread the virus

I am pleased your daughter is recovering - that is good news

 

[BoldonLad]

No one was disputing those facts

Here are some more
c) She was showing symptoms
d) A negative test doesn't mean no infection
e) The symptoms should not be ignored and Gove has a duty not to spread the virus

I am pleased your daughter is recovering - that is good news

If a negative test does not mean negative, why have various posters been bleating on about testing for weeks? If negative does not mean negative, the test is a pointless waste of money, time, and resources. IMHO.

The symptoms are similar to things other than CV.