Coronavirus outbreak

[kingrollo]

Quiz Question.....which country has ?

Limited gatherings to more than 50
Closed schools and universities
Told over 70s and other vunerables to self isolate

The answer...........Sweden.......

 

[marinyork]

Early academic number crunching suggests half of coronavirus deaths may be from care homes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...hs-happen-in-care-homes-data-from-eu-suggests

 

[kingrollo]

Early academic number crunching suggests half of coronavirus deaths may be from care homes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...hs-happen-in-care-homes-data-from-eu-suggests

We can't be seen to be the worst country in Europe - so keeping those deaths out if the picture muddies the waters somewhat.

 

[Rocky]

And if it couldn't get any more hypocritical.....Michael Gove gets special permission for his daughter to be tested (she has mild symptoms). And he was spotted out jogging, despite government advice that anyone in a household with someone who has symptoms should stay inside.

Words fail me..........

Leadership is about actions, it's about setting an example, it's about.....leading.

 

[tom73]

Shame she's not a HCP then we'd be over ran with PPE.

 

[Buck]

And if it couldn't get any more hypocritical.....Michael Gove gets special permission for his daughter to be tested (she has mild symptoms). And he was spotted out jogging, despite government advice that anyone in a household with someone who has symptoms should stay inside.

Words fail me..........

Leadership is about actions, it's about setting an example, it's about.....leading.

reading the article, he went jogging on Easter Sunday, after his daughter had tested negative so, no longer needing to self isolate.

 

[MrGrumpy]

I'm absolutely gobsmacked - 'limiting the supplies to Scotland' (from a BBC source).......there's a shortage in England but, no way would I have thought this would happen. The Prof and I have a number of dear friends who are on the frontline in Scotland. This is so sad - we are all supposedly in it together. I would really like to know who made this decision.

Beggars belief doesn’t it !! I’m not hell bent on separation of the UK but the current scenario we see ourselves in and stories like this getting out does make you wonder why we are all in it together?

 

[Rocky]

reading the article, he went jogging on Easter Sunday, after his daughter had tested negative so, no longer needing to self isolate.

Just because she was negative on the test, doesn't mean she didn't have the virus. She had the symptoms and that is what drives the self-isolation.

 

[Buck]

It‘S not the best written piece is it? My reading is test results back last Tuesday (7th). Went jogging on Sunday (12th)

Mr Gove, minister for the Cabinet Office, announced he was going into self-isolation last Monday after his daughter developed COVID-19 symptoms.

But he was photographed running in a south London park on Easter Sunday, raising questions about whether he was obeying NHS guidance that anyone self-isolating should only exercise at home.
After the revelation, it transpired that England's chief medical officer, Professor Chris Whitty, had advised that Mr Gove’s daughter should be tested for the virus - which happened on Tuesday.

 

[marinyork]

We can't be seen to be the worst country in Europe - so keeping those deaths out if the picture muddies the waters somewhat.

France and parts of the US seems to have some more robust system for logging care home deaths.

This is a problem many countries have - Italy and Spain have had large and unknown numbers of people dying in care homes or at home unrecorded. I'm not really that bothered whether the UK numbers are combined with the hospital figures or not as long is someone is counting the numbers in a timely as is reasonably possible and accurate fashion (doesn't seem to be) and more importantly acting on that information in terms of resources.

 

[alicat]

reading the article, he went jogging on Easter Sunday, after his daughter had tested negative so, no longer needing to self isolate.

And anyway the people at the top shouldn't be pushing in the queue for tests. The system only works if everyone has to abide by the same restrictions.

 

[Rocky]

It‘S not the best written piece is it? My reading is test results back last Tuesday (7th). Went jogging on Sunday (12th)

The scientific advice is that even if you test negative, is to assume you have it.

The test......."is less useful in ruling out COVID-19. A negative test often does not mean the person does not have the disease, and test results need to be considered in the context of patient characteristics and exposure."

So it has to be driven by the symptoms.....if her symptoms were such that she warranted a test, then the household should have been locked down for two weeks.

 

[Buck]

Just because she was negative on the test, doesn't mean she didn't have the virus. She had the symptoms and that is what drives the self-isolation.

If a keyworker shows a negative test result then they are able to go back to work so surely that’s the same?

The guidance we’ve been given in Primary Care is that if we do not show a positive result to the test then we are able to end self isolation and go back to work.

 

[marinyork]

It‘S not the best written piece is it? My reading is test results back last Tuesday (7th). Went jogging on Sunday (12th)

It's got nothing to do with how it's written. He's been bunged a perk, which people are going to be discussing about commentary Harries said on the matter previously, but it's clearly so. We're now onto children of the elite, it'll be servants and tennis partners next.

He's a hypocrite and nomenklatura of the highest order.

 

[Buck]

And anyway the people at the top shouldn't be pushing in the queue for tests. The system only works if everyone has to abide by the same restrictions.

I wasn‘t addressing that part of the article, just the chronology of the symptoms/self isolation, as above.