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In Sweden, they don't seem to be bothered about social distancing at the moment.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/

So why aren't they going to have the worst figures in Europe ?
Because they haven’t got the amount of ‘fuel’ of certain European territories ( nor has the U.K.) The U.K. is looking like it’s flattened the curve, so where that lot got the idea that the U.K. will be the worst hit Euro territory is beyond me. An American organisation was trying to float a figure of 66000 total U.K. deaths, which is even more laughable. 20000 deaths in total would be considered a touch, and at the current trajectory, the U.K. will be no where near that figure ( it should be considerably lower). Sweden decided to tell the politicians to sit back and shut up, and let the scientific experts deal with the nitty gritty. So far, it’s paid off.
 
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Eziemnaik

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The death toll combines those who died of covid-19 and those who died with it. Only after this is over will it be possible to try to differentiate between the two.

Just like Italy, everyone with virus is included in the stat. Also, Italian mortality well within the range of the past few years. Same as UK
Thats where cases of young people come into light - media love reporting them as CV19 victims even if they had 4th stage cancer, advanced AIDS etc
So far in the stats by Italian gov 1% of victims did not have a serious underlying condition.
 
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flake99please

We all scream for ice cream
Location
Edinburgh
And what's your implication there? That people with underlying health conditions are not worth worrying about?

I’m making an assumption for the poster here.... perhaps they’re implying that if you have no underlying health issues, that you should worry less about the severity of symptoms for yourself.

I look at the bigger picture myself. I don’t want it, nor do I wish to pass it on to anyone more vulnerable should I get it.
 
Link, please?

And what's your implication there? That people with underlying health conditions are not worth worrying about?
I’d imagine It’s probably more a case of that a lot of people with the underlying health conditions are far more likely to end up dying with CV-19, rather than of ‘complications arising directly as a result of CV-19’, but still end up as a CV-19 stat.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I’d imagine It’s probably more a case of that a lot of people with the underlying health conditions are far more likely to end up dying with CV-19, rather than of ‘complications arising directly as a result of CV-19’, but still end up as a CV-19 stat.
Still probably wouldn't be dead now without CV 19 so that seems accurate, doesn't it?
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Swiss RTS news: disputes over self-employed support, pleas to stay at home over Easter, new Chinese lockdown, Trump threatening to withhold WHO funding because they're being too nice to China
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Swiss RTS news: disputes over self-employed support, pleas to stay at home over Easter, new Chinese lockdown, Trump threatening to withhold WHO funding because they're being too nice to China
He's withholding funding as they "did a bad job" in controlling the pandemic

It's just politicking. His administration did a bad job so he's deflecting blame. It's completely unsurprising in the run up to the November elections but it remains somewhat unedifying
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Belgian RTBF news: new high in reported deaths due to delayed care home death reports, discharges still higher than admissions, debate around mask use with appeals for the public not to "hamsteriser" surgical masks, Wavre council contemplating mask compulsion, 20000 tests for care homes, formation of unlockdown strategy commission (pics), cancellation of exams or lengthen the academic year into July, report about a doctor in Pisa and the challenge of trying not to take cv19 home each day, EU corona bonds opposed by group led by NL, update on Boris, Cardinal Pell released in Australia, Mont-St-Michel isolated ghost town, "View from my window" facebook group, a VR smart treadmill thing
 

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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Odd thing from yesterday's sermon: Raab led them out then stood at his lectern, forcing the others to pass within 2m to get through the door. WTF?
 

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tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
For any staff in need of help it's so easy to forget yourself in all this.

The NHS is launching a hotline to support and advise healthcare staff during the coronavirus pandemic.
Volunteers from charities including Hospice UK, the Samaritans and Shout, will listen to concerns and offer psychological support.
The phone line will be open between 07:00 and 23:00 every day, while the text service will be available around the clock.
The phone number is 0300 131 7000 or staff can text FRONTLINE to 85258.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
This was a sad article, given the choice I'd take working alongside the virus in a hospital over a care home! These carers are underpaid and often ill treated, no wonder so many NHS health care assistants are ex-carers, the working conditions, salary, pension, holidays and security, must make the NHS seem like Shangri-La in comparison.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-52189562

I thought about her as I sauntered straight into Sainsbury's this morning, it's not right, she deserves the NHS shopping privilege far more than I do.
 

Eziemnaik

Über Member
Link, please?

And what's your implication there? That people with underlying health conditions are not worth worrying about?
I have posted it a page or two before

Im not gonna comment as any opinion different to official is not allowed
 
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