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Rocky

Hello decadence
The Italian government. Those are the official figures.
Also here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

It's a real problem who to believe.....your and my sources or the Daily Mail.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Also here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

It's a real problem who to believe.....your and my sources or the Daily Mail.
From that site going back to March 24

April 6 (GMT)
April 5 (GMT)
April 4 (GMT)
  • 4805 new cases and 681 new deaths in Italy. The number of patients hospitalized in intensive care has declined for the first time since the beginning of the epidemic in Italy

    The target of bringing down the reproductive number (R0) to 1 has been reached. Now the goal is to bring it below 1. Earlier in the epidemic, it was as high as 3. This value represents the average number of people to which a single infected person will transmit the virus. An epidemic with a reproductive number below 1 will gradually disappear

    An estimated 30,000 lives have been saved as an effect of the lockdown measures, according to Istituto Superiore di Sanità (ISS) [source] [source]
April 3 (GMT)
  • Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University.

    This number would still be insufficient to reach herd immunity, which would require 2/3 of the population (about 40,000,000 people in Italy) having contracted the virus [source].

    The number of deaths could also be underestimated by 3/4 (in Italy as well as in other countries) [source], meaning that the real number of deaths in Italy could be around 60,000.

    If these estimates were true, the mortality rate from COVID-19 would be much lower (around 25 times less) than the case fatality rate based solely on laboratory-confirmed cases and deaths, since it would be underestimating cases (the denominator) by a factor of about 1/100 and deaths by a factor of 1/4.
April 2 (GMT)
April 1 (GMT)
March 31 (GMT)





March 30 (GMT)
  • 4050 new cases and 812 new deaths in Italy. Total cases surpass 100,000 [source]

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      Lowest number of new cases in the last 13 days (since March 17)
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      Highest number of new recoveries (1,590) since the beginning of the epidemic
March 29 (GMT)
  • 5217 new cases and 756 new deaths in Italy
March 28 (GMT)
March 27 (GMT)
March 26 (GMT)
  • 6203 new cases and 712 new deaths in Italy. Worldometer has contacted Piedmont officials directly and received confirmation that the number of deaths in the region is 499, 50 more than what mistakenly reported in the Protezione Civile's bulletin today. This discrepancy was clearly due to a typing error by Protezione Civile, not to Piedmont's number of new deaths (16 today) missing in the national report, as incorrectly stated by some media. After solving this discrepancy, we changed the official total number of deaths in Italy from 8,165 to 8,215 and, accordingly, the total number of cases from 80,539 to 80,589 [source]
March 25 (GMT)
  • 5210 new cases and 683 new deaths in Italy. 4th day in a row with daily new cases below the 6557 peak reached on March 21. Protezione Civile chief Borrelli, the person usually holding the daily press conference, is at home with a fever, while the former chief Bertolaso is now hospitalized in Milan after having tested positive to the virus

    During the press conference, Protezione Civile officials were asked to clarify what the "change in active cases" ("incremento delle persone attualmente positive") really represents, after our website had raised the issue of Italian media reporting the change in active cases (a lower number) rather than the change in total cases (a higher number), incorrectly representing it as "newly infected" when, in fact, it represents the "change in active cases"

    Newly infected
    , meaning the number of people who have tested positive to the virus in the last day, corresponds to the number Worldometer has always reported, which is the change in total cases in accordance with the international standards set by the WHO and followed by all countries. An important figure which can be compared to newly recovered, as we do in our charts.

    The change in active cases (what most Italian media incorrectly label as "newly infected") is the result of the following formula: (newly infected) - (new deaths) - (new recoveries).

    Sharing the goal of providing the correct interpretation of data, we are pleased to notice that a few days ago, one of the leading Italian newspapers, Corriere della Sera, began reporting the figures correctly
    [source] [source]
March 24 (GMT)
 
true and my bulb kit had a main bulb, and a side light bulb, both sides had blown, and I needed to replace a main as well, I didn’t have enough, and the same 501 5W5 is used on my number plate and those had blown as well.

So I needed bulbs and fuses.

No one was at Halfords the items were put on a bench outside the store with the contactless card reader, by far the best social distancing I have seen at a store.

So not essential? I will tell my wife to call the hospital and say she doesn’t have transport, to make her shift as I suppose lights aren’t essential either.

My cars MOT has expired and my tax so with me working from home it’s sorn,I know the garages are open but it’s a morale choice over a connivence one.

But ho hum I’m sure I am the issue at the moment and not the dickheads breaking government guide lines by sun bathing and racing their motorbike around.

And people in my village are rather cordial, all the old people are cared for etc everyone waves and is happy as well, sorry if I take offence to muppets making morally bad choices, but like I said sun bathing is essential.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronav...8.1657384756.1586196355-1976359321.1584566970
 

MrGrumpy

Huge Member
Location
Fly Fifer
Keep your vehicle safe to drive
You must make sure your vehicle is safe to drive (‘roadworthy’). It can be unsafe even if your MOT expiry date has been extended.
Find out how to check your vehicle is safe and read the rules about vehicle maintenance, safety and security.
You can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points for driving a vehicle in a dangerous condition.
You should still take your vehicle to be repaired at the nearest open garage. The government is allowing them to remain open.
:okay:
 

Johnno260

Veteran
Location
East Sussex
Keep your vehicle safe to drive
You must make sure your vehicle is safe to drive (‘roadworthy’). It can be unsafe even if your MOT expiry date has been extended.
Find out how to check your vehicle is safe and read the rules about vehicle maintenance, safety and security.
You can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points for driving a vehicle in a dangerous condition.
You should still take your vehicle to be repaired at the nearest open garage. The government is allowing them to remain open.
:okay:

To be honest this is the reason I won’t use it until it’s passed an MOT, it’s a 2011 plate and took a pasting this winter so I would rather not take the risk.

I know all the tyres are good.

I know some garages are open, it’s my choice to run one car at the moment.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Just a thought
Government guidelines and the current emergency law.
Don't either advice or make it illegal to put your head up your own arse.
But it don't stop some going it. Try and take it out and you may see a much bigger picture.
 

pubrunner

Legendary Member
This virus, I hope BJ and everyone else gets over it ,

I agree wholeheartedly with you !

I've recently read some of the most sickening comments that I've seen on the internet, from someone called Claire Jadis.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Cla...UIHbeLB78Q9QEwA3oECAoQBQ#imgrc=zH3a64h7c9PsPM:

I'm as sure as I can be, that it will transpire that Claire Jadis is responsible for these comments. It appears, that her Facebook and Twitter accounts have been closed, but not before her comments have been captured.

I don't know who Claire Jadis is, but clearly, a nasty piece of work !
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
I agree wholeheartedly with you !

I've recently read some of the most sickening comments that I've seen on the internet, from someone called Claire Jadis.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Claire+Jadis+tweet&sxsrf=ALeKk001CJcjKleuRR8Pu2GaH3Gum_vt5w:1586203424264&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=zH3a64h7c9PsPM%3A%2Cjf6UmWKssMXKDM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSti2mm-AyNoFDUs-WyD8AmuQEA9w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir7JOdzNToAhXXRRUIHbeLB78Q9QEwA3oECAoQBQ#imgrc=zH3a64h7c9PsPM:

I'm as sure as I can be, that it will transpire that Claire Jadis is responsible for these comments. It appears, that her Facebook and Twitter accounts have been closed, but not before her comments have been captured.

I don't know who Claire Jadis is, but clearly, a nasty piece of work !
There'll always be nasty people, sadly. I prefer to take my hope from others. Nice tweet from Emmanuel Macron


View: https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1247254477092065280?s=20
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
@Brompton Bruce Prof may like to know.
Update from custody around 6pm tonight they upped the PPE use.
Everyone working in custody now have to wear a mask
All visitors and officers bringing anyone in have to do the same.
All detainees have to wear one outside the cell.
Mrs 73 has to now wear full PPE for every one.
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
@Brompton Bruce Prof may like to know.
Update from custody around 6pm tonight they upped the PPE use.
Everyone working in custody now have to wear a mask
All visitors and officers bringing anyone in have to do the same.
All detainees have to wear one outside the cell.
Mrs 73 has to now wear full PPE for every one.
That sounds like real progress. I'm pleased for Mrs 73 and I'm sure you'll feel a little more comfortable about the situation.
 
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