Coronavirus outbreak

[tom73]

It's common sense to not go out driving after after drinking but many do and many are not some joy rider. But more often than not a "ladies that lunch" set. Who think they are above the law it's fine I only had a drink or two.

Same with the current situation we can't just rely on common sense many don't care , many have the means to take a drive to do a walk and will do it. As staying local is not seen as something meant for them. It's common sense not to rush out and buy all the toilet roll you can get but it happened.

This is a public health emergency and needs to have powers that treat it as one.
I'm with @Johnno260 on this for some of us this has become personal. Everyone who looking for a little bend of the rules here and how much can I push it. Is increasing the chance that a loved one may not becoming home. His wife and mine just like many others have no choice but to face this thing head on. Unlike most of us who have a choice we can play by the rules and help each other or carry on looking for a way's to bend the rules.

 

[tom73]

Anyone else noticed an increase in fly tipping? I'm pretty sure I missed catching someone by minutes this morning, white van and driver on small lane that just for some reason made me suspicious straight away, he pulled over just after I'd passed him then carried on when he saw I'd stopped and was looking back at him, carry on round the next bend and there's crap (mostly packing type stuff) all over the road and blowing into the hedges.

Not so much yet but I'm seeing a lot of is gloves which look to be the new takeaway rubbish thown from passing cars.
Which is both totally wrong and a public health hazard.

 

[Johnno260]

Anyone else noticed an increase in fly tipping? I'm pretty sure I missed catching someone by minutes this morning, white van and driver on small lane that just for some reason made me suspicious straight away, he pulled over just after I'd passed him then carried on when he saw I'd stopped and was looking back at him, carry on round the next bend and there's crap (mostly packing type stuff) all over the road and blowing into the hedges.

loads here, we have a road blocked as it looks like someone drove a flatbed along the road and just pushed broken fence panels off the back.

Yes, selling the lockdown to the country last Monday was helped by the massive media coverage of all those idiots at the seaside and up mountains the previous weekend.

almost all the media coverage is click bait trash, but yea the packed beaches etc just gonna make more people rush there.

 

[Rusty Nails]

It interesting that the ONS have decided to include the particular new numbers they have, to artificially bolster the rate figures. They’ve scored a spectacular own goal. The new figures include deaths outside of hospitals. Now let’s see. The ‘mantra’ for justifying the degree of controls / lockdown is “Stay at home” ( they’re dead, it’s irrelevant, as dead people can’t spread the virus ) “Protect the NHS” ( people who’ve died outside of hospital won’t require hospital beds / ventilators / ITU so aren’t going to be a drain on NHS resources are they?) “save lives” ( They’re already dead, they can’t help you with that Boris). If this attempted manipulation of the figures fares as well as the last tactic to artificially bolster the numbers, by changing the recording period from 8 hrs to 24 hrs did ( it only worked for about 2 or 3 days) then I think the next tactic will be to start counting any death, where the person had Corona virus in their system, regardless of whether that had much influence in why they died, or not ( for example they died because they got hit by a car, but they were found to have CV in their system, so they count in CV death stats ). That would be a truly desperate attempt, but going on evidence thus far, not beyond the realms of possibility.

If anything the previous figures, which primarily included people who died in hospitals, deflated the numbers. There are huge numbers of people who have/had the virus, but because of very limited testing were not counted.

It is important to get a better figure for the size of the problem, including those dying at home or in care/nursing homes. Obviously the doctor signing the death certificate needs to be confident the death was due to Covid-19.

 

[tom73]

A man who tried to steal from the cars of NHS staff working shifts during the coronavirus crisis has been jailed for 12 months.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-52102760
Total low life let's hope he won't need help from prison health care staff.
Many prisoners don't like this sort of stuff either be hoped he has eyes in his back.

 

[tom73]

People have common sense ......

View: https://twitter.com/WYP_RPU/status/1244686006630178818?s=20

 

[mjr]

Anyone else noticed an increase in fly tipping?

Yes. Council tips are shut.

 

[mjr]

Yes, selling the lockdown to the country last Monday was helped by the massive media coverage of all those idiots at the seaside and up mountains the previous weekend.

Maybe that's why Boris announced step 1 of lockdown before he could enforce it. #manufacturedCrisisExaggeration

 

[Fab Foodie]

@Brompton Bruce did the proff. just get mentioned in dispatches this evening? 5pm Briefing?

 

[PeteXXX]

Would any other PM, or political party, made different decisions?

 

[Johnno260]

Let’s all just agree, there are too many morons.

 

[mjr]

People have common sense ......

View: https://twitter.com/WYP_RPU/status/1244686006630178818?s=20

dealt with under current law. No justification there for tightening.

 

[tom73]

Protecting the NHS is not just to prevent it being over ran and not being able to cope with Covid cases.
But it allow's staff to have time for little thing's which often mean the most.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52104361

I'm also aware of a covid case which a Nurse used FaceTime so his family could say good bye.

 

[Beebo]

Anyone else noticed an increase in fly tipping? I'm pretty sure I missed catching someone by minutes this morning, white van and driver on small lane that just for some reason made me suspicious straight away, he pulled over just after I'd passed him then carried on when he saw I'd stopped and was looking back at him, carry on round the next bend and there's crap (mostly packing type stuff) all over the road and blowing into the hedges.

All council tips are closed. So there is nowhere to dispose of the rubbish.
It isn’t surprising that idiots dump it elsewhere.
I would have thought that the tips could stay open with limited access as people are doing DIY and gardening.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Yes. Council tips are shut.

Our local council has stopped garden waste collections to make better use of manpower, and closed the tip. People are moaning about what are they going to do about mowing, clippings etc. If they are lucky enough to have a garden then surely they have enough space to have a compost bin, or to have a small space to pile the waste for a while. It may not look tidy, but that is not important in the overall scheme of things.

There is no excuse for fly-tipping, but then again there never has been and it still continues.

My garden is going to look very bare this year; I might try to put some seeds in, but there will be no shopping trips for bedding plants. The knackered forsythia bush I was going to chop down has had a year's reprieve.