Coronavirus outbreak

[tom73]

Next door to me is at risk so is on the 12 week lockdown. Her son lives in part time ,his GF now also lives in part time. Both are still coming and going. Now her mother who lives round the corner who also is at risk has just pulled up in her car and gone in the house.
Nice to see all this working so well.

 

[Edwardoka]

From his past behaviour I don't think it would be a stretch to suggest that Boris lacks the capacity to be affected by any number of deaths on his watch; other than his own perhaps.

I hope you're wrong. I don't believe he's a sociopath, he's a manipulative bastard who hides behind the persona of a bumbling fool.
I think the enormity of this will weigh very heavily on him indeed.

Trump on the other hand doesn't have the imagination or emotional intelligence required to empathise with others. I would view him as sociopathic rather than psychopathic, but either way he has zero capacity for empathy.

 

[marinyork]

Checking the numbers revealed how wrong I was - according to public health England we're now on 17089 confirmed cases and 1019 deaths, for an "instantaneous" mortality rate of around 6%. The closest figure from Italy (according to Wikipedia) was from the 13th (so 15 days ago) with 17660 confirmed cases and 1266 dead, for an instantaneous mortality rate of around 7%.

So we're faring a little better than the Italians, but just barely.. and they apparently implemented "lockdown" procedures (at least in part) earlier than we did. It's also worth remembering that Italy's population is far older than ours (and hence higher-risk) so in corrected terms we're on course to come out worse than Italy is.

We're doing fewer tests per day than the Italians than at the same deaths were. On the other hand we have done more tests in total by quite a way (around 25-40% more than Italy) depending what day you want to make comparisons for. DCMO Dr Jenny Harries has got annoyed at this point in press conferences quite a few times. If you take the latter point and adjust, which is not what I'm recommending we do, then our death rate would be worse than Italy's! Unfortunately I don't have how many ICU coronavirus patients there are to make a more intelligent comparison.

 

[ozboz]

Anyone have the same thought as me about this being a scam posted today on local website?

 

[Tanis8472]

my mrs received a letter today.
shez 37 yrs old but high risk.

i can continue to work but need to follow advice in the letter.

classed as key worker.

 

[Edwardoka]

Next door to me is at risk so is on the 12 week lockdown. Her son lives in part time ,his GF now also lives in part time. Both are still coming and going. Now her mother who lives round the corner who also is at risk has just pulled up in her car and gone in the house.
Nice to see all this working so well.

AGRGRGHRGHRGHRGH
What is wrong with people, how can they not get it through their thick skulls?!

 

[Mike_P]

AGRGRGHRGHRGHRGH
What is wrong with people, how can they not get it through their thick skulls?!

No lack of candidates for this years Darwin Awards.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

AGRGRGHRGHRGHRGH
What is wrong with people, how can they not get it through their thick skulls?!

Darwinism at work

 

[Edwardoka]

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Anyone have the same thought as me about this being a scam posted today on local website?

They may very well be selling something that qualifies as hand sanitiser but I'm pretty sure everyone and their pet capybara Jeffrey knows by now that soap and thorough hand-washing are far more effective than hand sanitiser. And would you want to rub your hands with a mystery concoction that contains unknown ingredients you bought off some rando online?

"If you mix snake oil, sodium hypochlorite and hydrochloric acid* you get a compound that is guaranteed to kill coronavirus! It so happens that I have some here, but stocks are running out! £3 a bottle!"

* DO NOT DO THIS

 

[Johnno260]

Thing is with these fabled home kits, they need to be fool proof, if they ship and aren’t accurate then that could create a huge problem, people could think they’re immune and they may not be.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

On the comparison with Italy...

It's grim.

 

[Tanis8472]

Not lack of candidates for this years Darwin Awards.

unfortunately they take with them the rest of us

 

[marinyork]

Thing is with these fabled home kits, they need to be fool proof, if they ship and aren’t accurate then that could create a huge problem, people could think they’re immune and they may not be.

Do they? Why do you think that?

It's a balancing act. Obviously if the test is only around a quarter or a third then that's no better than chance and complete junk as the case the spanish had (although the bad batch seems to be smaller and small nos now). If the test was 80% accurate which is what Spain wants that would be a gigantic leap forward.

Sickness rates at many employers are 25 or 30%. An 80% antibody test kit, or better still a so called antigen one would be awesome. As long as you use medical and common sense for those testing negative for people with symptoms alongside the test.

People still need to behave in exactly the same way taking broadly the same precautions even if they think they are immune.

 

[nickyboy]

Darwinism at work

It's all very well saying it's Darwinism at work (ie stupid people who don't follow the instructions are more likely to die). The issue is that person will block up an ICU bed and ventilator and may result in someone else not getting the care they need

 

[Ming the Merciless]

It's all very well saying it's Darwinism at work (ie stupid people who don't follow the instructions are more likely to die). The issue is that person will block up an ICU bed and ventilator and may result in someone else not getting the care they need

You are stating the bleeding obvious. But what is the solution to deal with this behaviour?