Skibird
Senior Member
- Location
- Brighstone, Newport
My thought is that he always looks as if he waiting to "be found out"
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My crystal ball tells me lockdown won't go on for months.
https://news.yahoo.com/why-nobel-la...kSybd55KhuxrqZSc72Mz5iwZnmEG9QB5ngXi_Vg-OLoMs
Joey Shabadoo
My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Just spoken to a receptionist at a construction company who was almost in tears at being forced to come in for work. This is disgraceful. A lot of confusion has been generated by having multiple "governments" inside the UK giving different and contradictory instructions.
Its a bit of a moral decision for me . I'm self employed and in construction . I have three jobs that i have worked on for the last two months and i am now ready to fit . Once fitted i get paid , until fitted i am skint as there has been no new deposits for the next batch of work .
Conversations with my customers this morning have been very real . They dont want to place orders as they are waiting to see what the fall out from this is . We have discussed if i should fit the work or not . Everyone including my self has agreed we should wait .
I have work i can do in my workshop so i dont need to be going out . It's not a good decision financially for me but i feel its the right decision to make with what we are all facing right now .
Conversations with my customers this morning have been very real . They dont want to place orders as they are waiting to see what the fall out from this is . We have discussed if i should fit the work or not . Everyone including my self has agreed we should wait .
I have work i can do in my workshop so i dont need to be going out . It's not a good decision financially for me but i feel its the right decision to make with what we are all facing right now .
Johnno260
Guru
- Location
- East Sussex
Bad news, my wife’s grandma has fallen and broken a hip, it’s bad and will require surgery, she has cold symptoms.
This is why I get paranoid about my kids being kids running jumping falling.
This is why I get paranoid about my kids being kids running jumping falling.
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I think one of the reasons Italy has fared so badly could be due to their strong anti-vaxxer movement, higher incidents of common flu and secondary pneumonia taking up resources.
deptfordmarmoset
Full time tea drinker
- Location
- Armonmy Way
Well, we can all contract diseases; they're now subcontracting diseases outside Scotland.
At least the contruction workers 100 yards away haven't turned up today. They were still around yesterday. Primary school next door deserted and I haven't heard a single car horn in the street (it's one of those streets with parking on both sides of the road, effectively turning it into a single track road with passing places).
StuAff
Silencing his legs regularly
- Location
- Portsmouth
With regard to the Levitt & Gupta predictions- unfortunately, the main thing we know about Covid-19 is that we don't know much about it. Various governments (and populations) are trying various strategies for dealing with it. Which work, and which don't work, remains largely to be discovered. Japan and South Korea seem to be doing OK so far, but we're nowhere near the end of this. I'm pretty sure that Johnson and crew are getting it wrong though…
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Lots of people seem to think that there is something unique about Italy which has made it worse there.
There almost certainly isn't; the pandemic has progressed at the same rate everywhere, give or take, unless stringent social distancing, and/or test and trace measures are put in place.
Noting how long it took even the most stringent measures to impact the death rate (China), it seems near certain we will approach the same situation there is now in Spain, Italy and France.
As posted upthread by @RecordAceFromNew
I offer my sincere apologies. May I explain my original post?
I've not been on social media ( apart from this forum) for several years. I also don't listen to news on a regular basis and what news I do follow tends to be Science /technology /sport related.
When I saw your post regarding herd immunity I wasn't aware of the context in which it was posted, and took it to refer to the general established model of herd immunity.
My sincere apologies once again for misunderstanding your post and for any offence caused.
Joey Shabadoo
My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Isn't that graph hugely distorting? The gap between 10-20 deaths is the same as between 5-10,000
I agree, the outcome depends mostly on how early preventative measures are taken but for a country with a comparatively good health care system the death rates have been shocking.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
It's a logarithmic scale. That's a standard way of plotting data to test if it follows an exponential curve. If it's a straight line on a logarithmic scale then it's following an exponential rise.
On a logarithmic scale, every doubling (10-20 and 5,000-10,000 for example) has the same gap.
For an epidemic, you expect it to be exponential until either a significant proportion of the population has been infected - "herd immunity" or control measures kick in.
You can see how the curves for each country start as straight lines, then curve over to the right. At that point, the exponential rise has been broken (or perhaps they've stopped testing and are burying in mass graves - see Iran)
In the old days, you could buy logarithmic graph paper for manually plotting such figures.
Mugshot
Cracking a solo.
I shut my shop yesterday, I could possibly have argued that I could stay open as one of the home/hardware shops but I don't want to and also it's extraordinarily unlikely I'll see anyone to actually make it worthwhile if I did stay open, Wren seemed to be working to a differet model yesterday but appear to have relented today.
One of my semi-regulars called in while I was there, he had been hoping to do some outside work but Jewsons was closed so he couldn't get his bits, so he called in mine to get some stuff for an inside tiling job he was going to do and said that although he'd rather be working outside he'd do inside stuff if the customer had the bits. During our chat he also mentioned what a great time he had on Friday night,
"£1 a pint!" He said, "I must have gone round every pub in town!"
The sooner they get the detail out for the self-employed the better.
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